[PRCo] Re: Black Diamond Mine

[Jim Holland]

 The Links were supplied by Ray concerning the Mine  --  Ray was concerned
that this was a long lost issue  --  that we had moved  "off [away-from] the
topic," Not OT in the classic sense as fws response indicates  (he certainly
missed the whole point Ray was trying to make)  --  donut understand what Ed
has to do with it when fws makes the response  --  let Ed speak for himself.
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At Any Rate  --  the links are split into two or more pieces  --  very
simpleto copy and paste the first part into the Bowser and then do the same
with the second half Making Sure that the second part actually goes at the
end of the first part, not overwrites the same.       Additionally,
dependingupon where you were reading this  (thru mail client or at website) 
there is usually much additional information ahead of the actual URL  -- 
that should not be copied into the Bowser  --  the URL itself starts with 
'http://[1]'       Nevertheless, in addition to reassembling the URLs 
(WithOut a guarantee that they shall stay that way,)  I am also providing
theTinyURL immediately below the link for your usage.
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Ray was trying to identify the Charleroi Interurban in relation to the Mine,
Very Much On-Topic even if an Old-Topic  --  but not all were able to
understand that apparently.
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The Interurban of which you speak in Brownsville is the West Penn which did
run into Uniontown, Martin, Fairchance, two lines between Uniontown and
Connellsville and even from there to Greensburg with a branch to Latrobe and
one to Irwin and at one time to Trafford for a direct connection to
Pittsburgh Railways Company  (PRCo)  where freight cars from West Penn ran
into downtown Pittsburgh At Night until about 1941.     Brownsville itself
not really far from Roscoe on the Charleroi line  --  would have been neat
tohave a connection here as well and run a charter over both systems with
thesame cars.     Unfortunately, the massive WP center entrance 700s
wouldn'tmake clearance on most of PRCo  --  InDeed, the original WP freight
motors had to be Shortened so they could travel on PRCo  --  originally they
were nearly as long as the 700s!!!     The WP Interurban system abandoned
about a year before Charleroi // Washington were truncated.
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Jim__Holland
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>Robert Simpson <bobs at pacbell.net[2]> wrote:::
>Hope this isn't "off-topic"
   
>  Thanks for the links.  
   
>  I can remember an interurban line which dead-ended in Brownsville - but
never had the opportunity to ride it.  As I recall, it went through Republic
and onward to Uniontown.  Seems it "broke loose" at least once and ran into
one of the retail establishments on Market Street in Brownsville.  These
weredouble ended cars and the operator took the control lever to the
oppositeend of the coach, switch the trolley contacts, and go in reverse.
   
>  The history is fascinating.
   
>  I can't get the links to work.  I tried using "copy &paste" but had no
success.
   
>  Have you ever tried  http://tinyurl.com/[3]  to shorten the links?  No, I
have absolutely no vested interested in this company.  I would forward this
to the Group but I do not know how.  Maybe this reply is to the Group but
notsure.
   
>  Bob
   
  
>>Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>[4] wrote:

>>  I think you just pushed Ed Lybarge's buttons! Off what topic?   
Trolleysexisted to serve people. If it were not for people, and their
amusement and and retail venues and places of work, there would have been no
Pittsburgh Railways or West Penn Railways or Butler Short Line or any other
trolley or interurban lines. The mines in western Pennsylvania are very much
on subject.

>>You probably do not realize how much they are on topic until you plot the
mines in Fayette County and find that all of the older mines and mine
patchesjust happen to lie next to the West Penn Railways car lines. Those
places called Orient and Whitney and Republic and Hecla and Standard and so
forth ad infinitum on the West Penn were mines and coke ovens.

>>>On Aug 17, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Lattner, Raymond wrote:

>>>  I know we moved off this topic. But I was trying to determine how close
the interurban line came to this mine. I found some Mine info at the Penn
State Digital Web site. See attached photos. Labeled number 67 on map.
Location river mile point 32.75 Looks like PRCo may have run under the lead
track to this tipple?
>>>Ray
>>>
http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh
-railways/black%20Diamond%20Mine2.jpg[5]
http://tinyurl.com/2azrzb[6]
>>>
http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh
-railways/Black%20Diamond%20Mine.jpg[7]
http://tinyurl.com/23uwvk[8]
>>>
http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh
-railways/Black%20Diamond%20map.jpg[9]
http://tinyurl.com/ys375a[10]

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