[PRCo] Re: Black Diamond Mine

[Fred Schneider]

Has something to do with sending your agents to Europe and telling  
the your-a-pee-uns that the streets in America were paved with gold,  
doesn't it.   You just come here and you can have some of the gold.    
Black gold that is.   Black lung and Emphasema too.   How many people  
got off the ships at Ellis Island and immediately bought tickets to  
places like Shenandoah PA or Oliver PA or Ely NV?   Probably most who  
didn't go across the harbor to New York were already heading for the  
mines.

Maybe it wasn't any different then than now.   Now the good factory  
owners want Mexicans who will work for nothing.   Economics really  
does not change.   Only the players change.

Today the Mexicans have no names in our culture.   Back then if a  
trolley ran over some one, the English and Germans had names, the  
Italians did not.   I have a picture of a West Penn 700 with the crew  
standing by the center door and some one neatly drew an arrow to the  
conductor and labeled his name and then added "shot by an Italian at  
Trotter."

In another 20 years the kids of all these Mexicans will speak English  
just like the kids of all those Italians and Poles.    With 103  
million in such a small poor country to our 330 million, and their  
birth rate of 19 per 1000 to our 17 per 1000, there is an seemingly  
unlimited supply of Mexicans.   "Fertility rates have  ... decreased  
from 5.7 children per woman in 1976 to 2.2 in 2006."



On Aug 18, 2007, at 7:40 PM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:

> Coal mines in Western Pennsylvania are always very much on-topic.   
> They
> supplied riders.  It's also a fascinating industry to study.  How  
> the owners
> ever got so many people to work in an absolutely hazardous  
> occupation for
> near-starvation wages for so long continues to amaze me.
>
> Maybe I should find some time to post Mr. Keighley's early 1900s  
> address
> about how healthful and nutritious the emanations from beehive  
> ovens were.
> He was a mine superintendent at one of the Olivers before he became an
> owner, and later killed himself because he became financially  
> overextended.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of  
> Fred
> Schneider
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:21 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Black Diamond Mine
>
>
> I think you just pushed Ed Lybarge's buttons!   Off what topic?
> Trolleys existed to serve people.   If it were not for people, and
> their amusement and and retail venues and places of work, there would
> have been no Pittsburgh Railways or West Penn Railways or Butler
> Short Line or any other trolley or interurban lines.   The mines in
> western Pennsylvania are very much on subject.
>
> You probably do not realize how much they are on topic until you plot
> the mines in Fayette County and find that all of the older mines and
> mine patches just happen to lie next to the West Penn Railways car
> lines.   Those places called Orient and Whitney and Republic and
> Hecla and Standard and so forth ad infinitum on the West Penn were
> mines and coke ovens.
>
> On Aug 17, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Lattner, Raymond wrote:
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>> I know we moved off this topic. But I was trying to determine how
>> close
>> the interurban line came to this mine. I found some Mine info at the
>> Penn State Digital Web site. See attached photos. Labeled number  
>> 67 on
>> map. Location river mile point 32.75  Looks like PRCo may have run
>> under
>> the lead track to this tipple?
>> Ray
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