[PRCo] Re: M454

Ken & Tracie ktjosephson at embarqmail.com
Wed Dec 26 03:27:53 EST 2007


Hey Ed,

I asked you about M-454 when we met for the first time. Simple
explanation....M-452 was in better shape, was a better preservation choice
and M-454 was scrapped for parts after being used as something of a
temporary storage unit.

That M-454 was used as fan trip car certainly wouldn't assure its
preservation. As a teenager, I asked a friend at IRM why Milwaukee trackless
trolley 441 was preserved and last scheduled coach, 428, was allowed to go
to Mexico City. Simple reply...428 wasn't in as good shape as 441 and the
museum wanted to preserve a typical Milwaukee Marmon-Herrington, not the
city's first, or last, or first to operate, or last to operate.

People tell me the North Shore Line's second to last order of cars (built by
Pullman) were better built than cars of the last order, built by Standard.
This fact has come home to roost as serious restoration efforts are being
made to some of these cars.

A NSL coach retired in decent, operating condition in 1963 is now sitting at
a museum in Connecticut, a tree or bush growing through one of its
platforms.

Preserving any artifact is a gamble. Some may be rescued and restored
immediately, others may die a slow death over decades.

Scrap prices are at their highest level in years.

We may live long enough to see one of the Electroliners and  dozens
of those preserved PCCs recycled.

K.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: M454


> The record shows eight through September 4, 1966. I don't have a 
> handy-dandy
> list for trips after that weekend. 




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