[PRCo] Re: Cleveland_--_Shaker

[Boris Cefer]

Very interesting!!! The chart in your book (I think it came from TRC files)
shows +/- 42 mph at +/- 4,100 feet, say 0.8 mile. My Westinghouse
Specification book shows +/- 40 mph at +/- 8,000 feet! That means fatal
error.

B

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:44 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Cleveland_--_Shaker


> If you'll look at the time / distance chart in the PCC book, Boris.
>
> On Feb 2, 2007, at 12:53 AM, Boris Cefer wrote:
>
> > It takes a mile to get up to that speed? With an empty or full car?
> > Our PCCs (empty) need ca 0.1 mile to get up to 32 to 35 mph. I
> > don't think
> > one mile is exact estimate for 43.5 mph.
> >
> > B
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:39 AM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Cleveland_--_Shaker
> >
> >
> >>
> >> O doubt of the average on Shaker was over 20 mph because they made
> >> far more stops that the Pittsburgh interurbans and the top speed was
> >> still nothing more than a standard PCC but modified with 1 inch
> >> larger wheels  ... the balancing speed might have been 43.5 unless
> >> they were governed to a lower speed but we need to remember it still
> >> takes a mile to get up to that speed.   You might have gotten 45
> >> downhill into the terminal with a full car in the AM rush but up hill
> >> in the evening rush hour with standees ... I would bet that 30 mph
> >> was pushing the envelope even with no stops for a full mile.   And
> >> once you passed Shaker Square, you would have no more than a quarter
> >> mile between stops.    The advantage that Shaker Heights had was that
> >> long haul with only two intermediate stops between (I my mind is
> >> working ... E. 55th and E 34th)  between Shaker Square and the
> >> Terminal.   You could not do that with a bus or a car or your own
> >> automobile on city streets.
> >
> >
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