[PRCo] Re: pat__service__cuts__2007.01.23-changed to 2/1/07

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 3 10:07:06 EST 2007


Could this really just be a process to mobilize PAT's constituancy to lobby 
the state legislature?  After all, it's worked the last 4-5 years, why 
should it not work again.  (do a search of Post Gazette archives) And if it 
doesn't work, then what????  We will find out in June.

But for those on this list, one might ask why most of the 41 series or 
routes slated for abandonment were never changed to light rail feeders years 
ago.

John

>From: Joshua Dunfield <joshuad at cs.cmu.edu>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: pat__service__cuts__2007.01.23-changed to 2/1/07 Date: 
>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 01:33:55 -0500
>
>Fred Schneider wrote:
> > You also might want to question how much analysis PAT did about which
> > routes are on the kill list.   I understand it was only average
> > patronage per trip without looking at reducing service frequencies,
> > or cutting some trips back at mid point or anything else.
>
>If you're saying the only criterion was average boardings per trip, I
>don't think that's the case; the "scorecard" has a number of other
>factors, including a number of "equity" considerations: service to
>minority, low income, seniors (there's your "old women"), and disabled
>populations, as well as "county coverage".
>
>Analyzing all permutations of a route network isn't feasible, even if
>you have reliable data on how many people get on and off at which stops.
>Could they have done a more complex analysis?  Probably.  Would it have
>been that much different?  I don't know.  Do you have any reason to
>think it would?
>
> >   So a
> > Mount Lebanon - Airport bus that ran every 1/2 hour with 4 passengers
> > carries the same weight as the Brookline bus with 900 daily
> > riders ... both would be axed.   Does not sound like imagination or
> > planning, just the old women and children first to make the state
> > come up with money so we can continue business as usual.
>
>Well...it definitely takes some imagination to talk about Mt. Lebanon-
>Airport buses.
>
> >    But I was
> > told they did make one route change ... that Library is now an
> > evening shuttle from Castle Shannon to Library ... the better to
> > drive away riders.
>
>If you look at 
>http://www.portauthority.org/PAAC/Portals/0/ServiceChange.pdf ,
>you'll see that a number of routes are being truncated rather than 
>eliminated
>(12A, 13A, 13C, 16B, 17B, 18B, 21A...you can find the rest).
>
> > I'm not really going to tell you who my pipeline is.   Would not be
> > fair.
>
>My pipeline, at this particular moment, is the following:
>
>http://www.portauthority.org/PAAC/News/ProposedFareandServiceChanges/ServiceScorecardOutcomeAnalysis/tabid/340/Default.aspx
>
>http://www.portauthority.org/PAAC/Portals/0/ServiceChange.pdf
>
>-j.
>

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