[PRCo] Re: The Tartan
trams2 at comcast.net
trams2 at comcast.net
Sat Feb 24 17:22:58 EST 2007
This is true, but first you have to nake certain you're dealing with a real journalist. If you aren't, the story still won't come out right. And just because a person is media-employed is no guarantee that he or she is a real journalist.
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From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> Over my lifetime Fred Schneider worked with my journalists. I found
> most of them were pretty good when it came to understanding people
> and issues about people. Send them out to cover a town meeting or a
> general political gathering and they generally got the facts
> straight. But most of them were like you and me. They didn't
> understand the ramifications of the labor market, for example. The
> York, Pennsylvania newspapers always sent me a new person every month
> to cover the labor force news release and every month I had to
> explain all the principles that were involved ... I used to call it
> the "business reporter of the month club." The truth was, no one
> wanted that job. Probably no one really understands engineering
> either. No one understand railroads. Few understand automotive
> engines or emission controls.
>
> So who is guilty, the newspaper or the person being interviewed?
>
> I have come to accept that the person talking to the newspaper
> reporter is guilty.
>
> The journalist knows that the layman reads at a 6th grade level and
> he must write for that level. If the FRA accident report talks
> about interlocking plants the news reporter is going to garble it but
> if the report talks about use of crack cocaine, it will be
> understood. If someone trying to clarify a report speaks to the
> journalist and uses the word engineer, the journalist is probably
> going to change it to "driver" because that is what the reader will
> understand.
>
> If we cannot speak to the news reporter about our sophisticated
> corner of the planet in a way that the reporter can understand, it
> will be garbled beyond all recognition. Guaranteed. And I've
> concluded it is our fault because no newspaper can have reports
> versed in every possible technical field on this planet.
>
> Did I come across with sufficient clarity?
>
> fws3
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2007, at 1:12 PM, John Swindler wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Maybe it is because journalist are trained in composition, grammer and
> > creative writing, not in the topic they are trying to write about.
> > Creative
> > people go into journalism. Logical people go into engineering.
> >
> > I once spent some time trying to edit a magazine. Found that I
> > could not
> > compose text and then edit it. Seemed to be two completely different
> > thought processes. So I would try to spend several days putting
> > together
> > "garbage" just to get something down on paper, then would have to
> > come back
> > week or so later and try to edit for grammer and facts. (and I am
> > very
> > envious of several others who seem to have the ability to compose
> > finished
> > text with no problem at all.)
> >
> > Many many years ago there was an article in Harvard Business Review
> > that
> > discussed that people seemed to analyze/plan on left side of brain
> > (sort of
> > logical side) and the right side tended to be more intuitive/
> > creative side.
> > One comment was that those who are technically proficient don't
> > always make
> > the best managers/leaders. Seemed to make a lot of sense to this
> > non-creative person.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Bill Robb
> >> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: The Tartan
> >> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:31:29 -0800 (PST)
> >>
> >> We have become a society that is always in a hurry. I've had slides
> >> printed backwards. All you have to do is look at the image. When
> >> the words
> >> on the destination sign are backwards the image is backwards. But
> >> in the
> >> photo lab all they do is look at the slide mounting. If the slide is
> >> mounted backwards, they print it backwards! You will find images
> >> scanned
> >> backwards in online archives. Obviously, no one is checking if the
> >> image is
> >> correct. Quality takes time and as a society we don't want to take
> >> time.
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Why is it so many journalism writers constantly make so many
> >> mistakes?
> >> What
> >> ever happened to getting the facts straight? I get frustrated
> >> when I see
> >> mistakes after mistake that should not have ever gotten away.
> >>
> >> A 29 year old journalism major did an article on me here at
> >> Purchase and
> >> there are more things incorrect than correct. Major music
> >> magazines going
> >> out to educators that have cover photos printed backwards are
> >> constantly
> >> showing up in the mailbox.
> >>
> >> Yes, I make mistakes and they have shown up in the PTM calendar
> >> and my
> >> book.
> >> God (and most people) knows I am not a perfect musician. A few
> >> years back
> >> there was a stress reducing book entitled something along the
> >> lines of
> >> Don't
> >> Sweat the Small Stuff. We need to learn to sweat the small stuff
> >> and the
> >> big stuff looks easy.
> >>
> >> Dennis Fred Cramer
> >> Trombone
> >>
> >>
> >>
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