[PRCo] Re: Tylerdale

[Fred Schneider]

AS I SUSPECTED, A DULL WINTER DAY AND THERE IS NO BACKGROUND  
COLOR.    THE CAR IS RED AND CREAM.   EVERYTHING ELSE IS GRAY ...  
GRAY SKY, GRAY EARTH, GRAY SNOW, GRAY INDUSTRIAL DIRT ALL OVER  
EVERYTHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN WASHED.   As Kodak told my father, you  
photographed something that has no color.  Only in this case, there  
is a shift to the magenta.


On Jan 1, 2007, at 1:04 AM, Jim Holland wrote:

>> On 29 Dec 2006 at 22:29, Fred Schneider wrote:
>>
>>> I truly suspect that the colors in that picture are as close as
>>> you're going to get to realism and that the red and cream streetcar
>>> is the only object on a gray day that had any color other than
>>> various intensities of gray.
>>
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> NEW____INFORMATION    Below,   A-N-D   Slide  scanned afresh.
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>>> Donald Galt wrote:
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>> Seriously, though, I don't think we are looking at a slide.  
>> Rather, at
>> a low-resolution 120 print that has been touched up - quite expertly!
>> - by a colourist.
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> The Color one  I-S  a slide and the B&W is a print  --  both from
> Scholes Photos as Ed thought  --  doesn't mean Scholes took them.
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>> It looks so very much like some of the better of the b&w pictures  
>> that
>> I used to take as a child. The tinges of in the snow look to be done
>> by a human hand, and the tinting isn't as crisp as the photo itself.
>> The yellowish cast to the entire picture could possibly come from the
>> camera but could just as likely be due to a subtle wash. 1707 may  
>> well
>> be the only vivid object in the photo. Not that vivid, though, not in
>> this unpromising light.
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> Scanning irregularities from older scanners  --  slide is Obviously a
> copy  --  much to be washed out.
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>> I can't prove it - just my hunch. As I said, if a tint job, a  
>> skillful
>> one.
>>
>> The colour quality available to the well-heeled photographer as long
>> ago as 6 decades is seen in the Washington Interurban photos in Bill
>> Volkmer's Pittsburgh Area book. A couple of them claim to date from
>> 1944. In any case, the Washington city pictures are obviously no  
>> later
>> than their stated 1952-3. Oh, if only we had a few more like them! Or
>> a few dozen more.
>>
>> Don Galt
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> Again  --  quick scan, older scanner, color copy slide.
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> I-F   the comparison were from original Slides / Color Prints / B&W
> prints then the above observations would carry Far More Weight.    But
> these are Crude Scans and the color  'scan'  may be from a print made
> from a 'copy' slide which is Kodachrome 1.       I originally posted
> many of these.
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> Jim___Holland
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> I scanned the slide afresh at normal screen  DPI  (096)  for  8X10  
> size
>    ----    it is   UnEdited.       The photo is  NOT  retouched and  
> was
> a full color slide  'reportedly'  taken in 1950 and with the
> PITTSBURGH  display for the destination, this should be accurate
> ----    note that even the roof monitor displays the gray tone  
> which was
> discussed here before.       So Here We Go with another of 1707 at
> Tylerdale in the photo list!!!!!!!
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