[PRCo] Re: The "Light Rail ex-1600 1700s"

Herb Brannon hrbran at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jan 2 18:19:33 EST 2007


First of all, try to understand what I wrote. I did not say that todays parts are inferior. I was not even talking about today. I was talking about the mid-1970's.
   
  Then, what do I know. I just operated the cars for several years.
TEP <tompark at telus.net> wrote:
  Having been for 44 years, and still am, specifying, testing and 
commissioning new electric rail vehicles I have to disagree with Herb 
Brannon that parts today are inferior in quality to the "old days". 
They are different and often more complex, with far more electronics -- 
but the comparable stuff -- motors, gears, brake actuators and control 
valves et. al., are better and more reliable. Quality control is much 
improved across the board.

When I started my career at Westinghouse, East Pittsburgh, in 1962 we 
thought it good to get 10,000 miles per total road failure from a new 
subway or streetcar (tow job or serviceman dispatched), many properties 
averaged less than 5000 miles, some disastrously less. Today we specify 
and achieve 80,000 - 100,000 miles per "dead" failure -- some designs 
exceed 150,000 miles. In part this is due to the on-board electronic 
diagnostics that reports back, and allows fixes, before failure -- such 
as hot motors, doors that exceed pre-set closing times, etc. It also 
depends on maintenance ability and quality. The old adage that "if it 
came in running", it went out the next morning, has gone.


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Tom Parkinson Vancouver BC
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Herb Brannon




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