[PRCo] Re: Location for MWP curved-side picture
Fredbruhn at aol.com
Fredbruhn at aol.com
Wed Jan 3 21:00:18 EST 2007
In a message dated 1/2/2007 10:56:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, galtfd at att.net
writes:
The Co-Op pictures on PRMA pp.25-27 show (apparently) all orange below the
belt
rail and all cream above at least to the window tops. My 33 is obviously
painted differently. Faded or not, more cream would have been prettier.
Don - Wheeling was yellow and orange. The photo of 32 in PRMA on page 27
looks cream, but is yellow. This shot is taken at the end of track on the 5
Warwood line, which one time continued north to Steubenville, OH. Take a look at
page 47 of "The Colorful Streetcars we Rode, CERA 125, which shows the colors
well, but more subdued than the yellow on color prints from Charlie Houser
purchased on Ebay.
Probably the film and processing, but Fred S. would know a lot better than I
do. That photo of car 1 is at the end of track on route 79 Rayland, which ran
along the West side of the Ohio River in Ohio, while Route 5 Warwood ran
along the W. VA. side. Your looking at downtown Rayland in this shot. There is
one other store to right of the photo that is still there. The B&O and Pennsy
ran along the river too.
I'll try to help a bit on Panhandle Traction and the Warwood line with a few
tid bits, as taken directly from the Newspaper articles I have in front of me.
The Wheeling News Register.
2-7-39 Panhandle Line Seeks to Abandon = After 35 years of operations, the
line wants to discontinue
service between Wheeling and Wellsburg, and at the same time the
Steubenville-Wellsburg Railway, successors to the old Steubenville, Wellsburg and Weirton
Railway, has also applied to discontinue service.
2-15-39 Co-Op applies to Public Service Comm. to operate buses from Whg. to
26th. St. Warwood. to replace the Panhandle service, and also to provide
service to 27th. St. Wellsburg.
3-28-39 Hearings are opened. 4 substitute bus routes are applied for.
Co-Op Bus Lines, subsidiary of Co-Op Transit to operate from Wgh. to 26 St.
Warwood, and 2- Harry McCune as individual to have service between Wgh. and
Wellsburg. 3-A Wellsburg man wants to provide service in Wellsburg and from Wellsburg
to the east end of the Steubenville bridge (W.Va side of the Ohio River),
4-Penn Bus Co. part of the current West Penn system has been operating one trip a
day and wants to expand service
3-29-39 Local residents urge commission to retain Warwood service by street
car because it is "unusually good." A permit for a competitive bus company
would lead to abandonment of the street car service. It was announced that
Co-op was negotiating with Panhandle to purchase the tracks from 1St. St. Wheeling
to 27th. St. Warwood, owned by Panhandle but used by Co-Op
4-22-39 PSC authorizes abandonment of Steubenville Street cars. = Penn Bus
received the permit from 27th. in Warwood to Steubenville on the W.Va. side of
the river. The cert. was temporary. Co-Op will continue to handle
Warwood-Wgh. service. Penn Bus can only pick up passengers bound from Whg. to Wellsburg
or Steubenville, not to Whg. destinations or Warwood.
NOTICE: Effective Monday, May 1, 1939, Co-Operative Transit street cars will
render all local service between Wheeling and North Warwood, and will operate
on the present street car schedule.
Service between Wheeling and Steubenville via Wellsburg will be given by Penn
Bus Co. using buses of the Co-Operative Bus Company.
5-3-39 Co-Op Transit purchases all track, row and other equipment of
Panhandle between 27th St. in Warwood and 1St. street in Wheeling. The value was set
at $12,000.
12-14-39 Penn Bus Co. given final permit to operate Steubenville Wheeling
Route. = A victory for the Co-operative Transit Co. of Wheeling is seen in the
ruling of the West Virginia Public Service Commission, handed down shortly
after 5 o'clock Wednesday evening, permitting the bus company to operate between
the state line at Steubenville, O. and he Union Bus Terminal, sixteenth St.
Wheeling. (my addition: streets in Whg. start at 1st. in North Whg. and inc
rease to about 48th in South Whg) In the lengthy argument, since the
Steubenville, Weirton & Wellsburg Railway company, in bankruptcy, asked permission to
discontinue service in Sept. 1938, the Co-Op's greatest fear was that the Penn
Bus company, a subsidiary of West Penn Public Service, would adopt a practice
of running a bus just ahead of the street cars to Warwood and eventually
"squeeze out" the car line by picking up street car passengers. However, in
Wednesday's ruling, the commission specified Penn buses must not pick up passengers
between 16th. Street in Whg. and a point 800 feet north of the Ackerman Mfg.
company's northern gate in north Warwood, except on one scheduled trip each way
daily. The Penn company has been operating over the route under a temporary
agreement reached in April. The right of the company to enter Steubenville not
held by other applicants, and its established rights as an intrastate carrier
were cited by the commission in issuing the order under the motor carrier
act. In addition the Co-Op Transit was granted permission to buy the equipment
of the Pan Handle Traction company from Jonathan's Ravine, ear First St. in
Wgh. to a point near the Costanzo Coal company mine. The Panhandle's application
to discontinue service was granted Wed.
Other orders resulting from the series of hearings:
Denying H.B.McCune (Pres. Co-Op) permission to ooperate between sixteenth
street, Wheeling and 27th. Street Wellsburg. (note: as you go north on the
Ohio River towards Pittsburgh, its Wheeling, Warwood,
Wellsburg, Follensbee, bridge to Ohio and Steubenville and a couple of miles
north of the bridge Weirton.
Weirton was the first steel co. to become an ESOP, and did well for some time
but now is in deep du-du)
Denied Co-Op bus company right to operate from first St. Wgh. to 26th. Street
Warwood, end of car line service. This is 1938 and the streetcars were still
running.
10-31-47 Warwood will get bus service soon = Ten new 40 passenger GM buses
arrived in Wheeling this week and are now being prepared for service. McCune
said today that application would be made immediately to the W VA P. S.
Commission for permission to abandon the North Wheeling and Warwood street car line
and replace it with bus service.
11-14-47 Warwood Car Abandonment Hearing Set = The PS Commission has
announced it will hold a hearing Friday Nov 21 on the application to discontinue
electric railway service. The discontinuance was asked by the company because it
said present service was obsolete and that bus transportation was now
available over the same route made electric service a financial liability. It also
contended that public pressure had been brought upon the firm for discontinuance
to permit the state road commission to make certain repairs on state route 2
and make room for vehicular traffic. (note: In the 45 years I have traveled
route 2 off and on they have never fixed it properly)
11-21-47 At the hearing a former city manager of Warwood cited as reasons to
end electric service:
The railway was a detriment to traffic, police and the
fire department.
service on route 2 imperiled Red cross operations in time
of disaster
parking on portions of Main St. on both sides impeded
traffic flow and the city was powerless
the street cars were more than 23 years old
12-3-47 The party is over. May revise Warwood Rates and Schedule after sharp
protest = Attorneys
scathingly criticized Co-Operative over increased rates and inadequate
service. (My, my, just a couple weeks after conversion to bus operation.) Rates
with the new buses increased from 7.5 cents to 10 cents, a 30% increase. Buses
were also short turning in Warwood. Within Warwood rates went up from 5
cents to 6.5. Like all political problems, it was referred to Council committee to
review.
Warwood used the curved side cars that were standard gauge as were the
Panhandle cars. Dual gauge track ended at the Warwood barn. Panhandle also had a
barn at Follensbee, but I have never found any remains of it.
Panhandle used the two or three man center entrance cars and offered one hour
service between Steubenville and Wheeling. In big letters on the car side
were Wheeling - Steubenville and on the front right of the dash was 60 minutes
and Wheeling-Wellsburg-Steubenville Limited. Vertically on each side of the
center door was "Limited." This service started in 1928 and ended in 1931, or
technically it was under West Penn or Wgh. Traction control. The run distance
was 25 miles. The letterboard did not identify either
Panhandle or West Penn on the letterboard.
I have a Gwinn photo of a three man crew, motorman, conductor and a ticket
taker I assume. He is wearing a coin changer and a fancy vest with multiple
pockets for tickets, etc. Maybe Fred S. can get one of those for the summer
season at PTM.
I hope I haven't left you confused and you all get a bit of traction trivia
from this. The Martins Ferry story is wilder as those folks didn't want those
darn buses.
If you have not ordered the new PTM museum book for something like $6.00 you
should. I was surprised when mine arrived today at just how many new
additions PTM has acquired. The book is first rate too.
the other Fred (not the doctor nor the titanium man)
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