[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Census Data

[Fred Schneider]

If nothing else, Jim, you got a slight education on analysis by age  
cohorts.    You need to have some idea of the nation as a whole and  
what growth areas look like (i.e. Denver) and retirement areas (west  
coast of Florida below the frost line) in order to judge how  
Pittsburgh looks.    And you need to know where the prisons and  
universities and old folks homes are in order to figure out the group  
quarters populations.   Prisons usually have large populations in the  
20s just like universities.   Centre County, Pennsylvania will have a  
very young population because it has 1) Penn State University with  
30,000 kids (the college phone book is larger than the county phone  
book) and 2) it also has a major Federal prison.  If you know those  
populations and take them out of the youth, then you will probably  
find a fairly old population because there really are not a lot of  
jobs.    Of course governments don't want you to know prison  
populations.   Another issue complicating any analysis is that the  
military data is in national totals but is never disaggregated down  
to states or counties because federal law prohibits telling you where  
military personnel are housed.  So if you are sitting on the edge of  
Fort Hood or Fort Ord, sorry, but it doesn't exist in the census.    
Those people will only appear in the U. S. population totals.     
Civilians working for the military cannot be disclosed either, which  
also often prevent disclosing other civilian federal jobs because you  
could figure out the base jobs by subtraction.

On Jan 11, 2007, at 6:26 AM, Jim Holland wrote:

> Fred Schneider wrote:
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>> Regarding the city of Pittsburgh, Yins might be interested in how the
>> census data compares to the national averages in 2000.
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>> Age 60 and over .. Pittsburgh 20% of the population is over age
>> 60.     The national average is 16.5%.
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> 21.212121...% more than national average of this group  --  please see
> 45-54 group for comment.
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>> Age 55-59 Pittsburgh is actually under the national average ... 4.2%
>> versus 5.9%.
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>> Ages 45 through 54 Pittsburgh 12.2%, U. S. as a whole 14.6%
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> A 2.4% difference on the downside doesn't seem like much At First  
> Blush,
> but when that 2.4% is taken as a percentage of the U.S.A. as a  
> whole, or
> of 14.6%, then the Burger has 16.4383% fewer People
> 'In__This__Age__Group'  than the national average.       So with other
> age groups here.
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>> Ages 35 to 44 Pittsburgh 14%, the nation is 14.9%
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>> Ages 25 - 44 Pittsburgh is higher than the nation at 14.5%; the
>> nation is 13.5%
>>
>> Age 20-24 Pittsburgh is 10.3% and the nation is 6.7%.
>>
>> Pittsburgh City had almost 23,000 people in the 2000 census living in
>> "group quarters" which can be institutional (such as jails or
>> hospitals) or non-institutional such as universities. The city has a
>> very high number of hospital rooms and actually exports hospital
>> services to the rest of the world. There may be an above average
>> number of old folks homes. We also know there are a large number of
>> university students (Carnegie-Mellon, Duquesne, University of  
>> Pittsburgh).
>>
>> What you see in the census data is a distortion or inflation if which
>> of the younger age group (18-22 or even older) because of college and
>> university students including those going on for advanced degrees)  
>> and
>> a very elderly population, and a diminished working population. The
>> people who used to ride the trolleys or buses (when the city had a
>> population of 650,000 instead of 330,000) are old, or dead, or have
>> moved out of town hunting jobs elsewhere.
>>
>> That spine line to Oakland might be nice but I wonder if I really  
>> want
>> my tax dollars invested in it?????        Albuquerque is just as big
>> and we never talk about it.
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> Anchorage might be just as big as well  --  and who talks about it
> except for some boondoggle bridge that was built With Our Money up
> there.       Has to be More Than Just size that qualifies a city for a
> transit need.       Pgh.  'Had'  the steel mills; what did Albuquerque
> have  --  what industries did Albuquerque have that needed to move  
> large
> numbers of people??       Oakland  Is // Was  an educational and arts
> center  --  would Albuquerque have something similar where a direct  
> need
> for transit could be compared?
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> Wonder how San Francisco compares  --  population is over 700,000  
> and we
> have SF-State, UCSF, USF, Golden Gate U, Hastings College of Law,  
> Bryman
> College,  California College of the Arts,  Academy of Art which draws
> people from All Over The World,  Devry,  a multitude of City College
> campuses, Etc. in addition to multiples of colleges // Universities
> around the Bay Area including Stanford U, Santa Clara U., etc., etc.,
> etc.       We May be Top Heavy with Students.
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> California  And // Or  Bay Area  is seeing a net loss of people on an
> annual basis on occasion so the net increase that was a trend for
> decades may be in the process of turning around for a trend of a net
> decrease!!!       Maybe when their education in CaliFornication is
> completed they shall move back to the Burger!!       BEWARE!!!!!!!
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> Jim___Holland
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