[PRCo] Re: Transit evolution

Richard Allman allmanr at verizon.net
Sun Mar 18 12:57:40 EDT 2007


bad assumption. Seems we're a bunch of Peter Pans-never grow up-I hope...!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 12:01 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Transit evolution


> Bob's assuming we've all grown up...!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Bob
> Dietrich
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:43 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Transit evolution
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> Do you have to grow-up to have senior moments?  If so then why can't I
> remember nuttin???
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Edward
> H. Lybarger
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:08 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Transit evolution
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> I don't know, Ken...I had "senior moments" before I met Fred, and that was
> about 1973!  They can occur at any age!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Ken &
> Tracie
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 10:52 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Transit evolution
>
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> Yes....when I gave the book to one of my brothers (an urban planner) as a
> Christmas gift, I included a folder containing an article written by a
> traction historian (maybe you or Fred, I forget who wrote it) showing the
> other side of the debate.
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> This was a few years before I met either one of you. The author of the
> article may have been a West Coast person. I simply can't recall.
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> If I had known "senior moments" were contagious, maybe I would have 
> avoided
> meeting Fred the Third altogether! ;-)
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> K.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:33 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Transit evolution
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>> The only problem I have with Goddard's "Getting There" is his chapter 7,
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>> which he gives far too much credit for the demise of trolley systems to
>> "The
>> Conspiracy."
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
>> Dennis F. Cramer
>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:06 PM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Transit evolution
>>
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>> Two books I recommend on the transit evolution are:
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>> "Getting There, The Epic Struggle between Road and Rail in the American
>> Century" by Stephen Goddard
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>> "The Federal Role in Urban Mass Transportation" by George M Smerk
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>> A third deals with the development of organized labor in the transit
>> industry:
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>> "Trolley Wars, Streetcar Workers on the Line" by Scott Molloy
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>> Dennis Fred Cramer
>>     Trombone
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