[PRCo] Re: Rankin Car House
Fred Schneider
fwschneider at comcast.net
Wed May 9 17:38:55 EDT 2007
It was an east end car house that closed when a loaded work car went
through the Rankin Bridge circa 1937 and temporarily ruined the
access to the barn. It was never reopened as a regular division,
only as a storage building. I think McKeesport closed sometime
before that. Carrick also closed in the 1930s, then reopened during
World War II, and then was closed around 1950. Dates are
approximate. The point I'm making is that after PRC built all
those new barns in the 1920s and consolidated operations (Ingram
replacing Point Bridge, West Park and Carnegie, Keating replacing
Taggart Street, Charles Street and East Ohio Street, Carrick
replacing some some old barns on the South Side and up on the
hilltop, and so forth and so on), by the 1930s it was time to make
another round of closures because the business simply wasn't there to
justify all those cars. Another 1930s change was closing Castle
Shannon and moving the interurban cars to Tunnel. Another change in
the 1930s was the elimination of time based inspections and the
substitution of mileage based A, B and C car inspections and the
closure of South Hills Shop and the consolidation of all inspection
and overhaul work at Homewood. I'm not sure when the Pittsburgh,
Allegheny and Manchester shop in Mancester closed ... might have been
in the 1920s.
The collapse of the bridge was just a good excuse to convert Rankin
from an operating division to a place to put the cars that were
retained in the rate base but were not being operated. Even in
World War II it never became a operating base. In 1945 it filled
up with low-speed low floor cars (5100s). Then as high speeds
became surplus, they went to Rankin and low-speeds were scrapped.
Then the low-floors were scrapped and older PCCs went into Rankin.
It would be really nice to get into people's minds and find out if
they really thought they were saving cars for future use or whether
they knew they were only storing them to keep them in the rate base.
Both are logical.
On May 9, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Ken & Tracie wrote:
> Thanks, Fed.
>
> Rankin...that's what I meant, Fred. Why I typed in Craft, I don't
> know.
> Rankin was an East End car house, wasn't it?
>
> K.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:10 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: For Boris
>
>
>> Without looking at any rosters to see where cars were stored, I am
>> assuming it was Rankin. There were a lot of 1200s stored there in
>> the late 1960s. I remember Norm Vutz telling me that PAT had askd
>> PRC if they could have some of them and PRC countering with, "Why ask
>> us, you condemned the property, they're yours." At that point PAT
>> would not touch them with the proverbial ten foot pole for fear of
>> admitting ownership. And in the long range, in the out of court
>> settlement, PRC gave up and PAT won and PRC scrapped the cars in
>> Rankin and PRC sold the building.
>>
>> On May 9, 2007, at 2:14 PM, Ken & Tracie wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't come through on several promises...I've been wanting to
>>> put
>>> together some disks with R. Hill pix on them for some of you and
>>> Boris has
>>> been after me to rescan some pix of PCCs being scrapped and of some
>>> unused
>>> cars (rejected by PAT) which were stored in a car house (Craft?).
>>> I haven't dug out all the pix nor have I made the time to put
>>> together any
>>> disks, but here's a photo taken on January 13th, 1967. I dunno,
>>> 1606 appears
>>> to look better than some of the 1600s PAT kept. Must have had some
>>> serious
>>> mechanical issues.
>>>
>>> I wish I could whip up those CDs and get 'em sent out, but I may
>>> have to
>>> wait until I take some time off from work and have several
>>> uninterrupted
>>> days to scan and put them together.
>>>
>>> Anyway, enjoy the photo. It proves Pittsburgh can be as dusty as
>>> Mohave
>>> Desert.
>>>
>>> K.
>>>
>>>
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