[PRCo] Re: OT: Nova LFS

[Jim Holland]

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Subject: 	Fwd: RE: [LRPPro] Nova LFS
Date: 	Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:48:17 -0000

	

	



"geoghb at ..." <geoghb at ...> wrote:

I heard they were recruited from the various LRV design teams. They get 
big bucks for this. What's worse, the sales people can convince the 
transit agencies to buy these monstrosities. Maybe their GMs get a free 
Volvo S80? (:D

George Barsky

I swear, the people at Volvo who designed the Nova LFS must have been a 
drunk or stoned or perhaps a combination of the both at the time the 
came up with the idea for that bus. ASD

To: Lo at yaps.com; adirondacksub at ...;
kellergraham at ...; raakone at ...:
miklosfrank at ...: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:04:23 -0500Subject: Re:
[Lo] RE: [CanPassRail] $691-million for Via.



The Nova low-floor bus is one of the worst public transit vehicles I 
have ever been on. Very few seats, and those that do exist are poorly 
laid out.     In the rear of the bus some of the seats face backward and 
force people to ride knee to knee.

Frank

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From: Andrew Dawson
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Lo] RE: [CanPassRail] $691-million for Via.

Prevost A.K.A Volvo, I ride their stupid buses almost every day. Their 
Nova LFS model has even received the moniker of  "Low F*g S**t"  from 
even bus buffs. I had a chance to ride their 60 foot model, compared to 
their 40 foot version. This was just 20 feet of more @#$%^. They're 
about as ergonomic as a torture chamber.
http://www.volvo.com/bus/global/en-gb/products/city+buses/complete+buses\/Nova+LFS/ 
In transit, Andrew

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adirondacksub at ...; tr2000 at yahoogroups.com; kellergraham at ...;
jprepass at ...; larosepa at ...; raakone at ...:
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Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:09:56 -0500Subject: Re:
[Lo] RE: [CanPassRail] $691-million for Via.

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Andrew Dawson wrote:>> Earlier this year I had a 
chance to speak to our Federal Transport minister Lawrence Cannon at the 
Lucien L'Allier station here in Montreal (John Baird our Environment 
minister of the time was there too). They were there for some sort of 
"Eco-Transport" media thing.>> At least one of his staff members gave me 
a mug though, which was kind of cool(BTW it was made in China).at least 
most of the American gaggle running for President of the USAare touring 
in Canadian built Prevost buses..Bob

 >> In transit, Andrew>>> To: Canadian-Passenger-Rail at ...: djchrist at ...:
Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:10:12 +0000
Subject: [CanPassRail] $691-million for Via.>>>>>
One of the more flippant definitions of insanity is to keep doing the 
same thing and yet expecting a different result. So, all I can say about 
handing VIA more money -again- and expecting a different result is a 
form of bureaucratic insanity.Actually....that's NOT all I have to say. 
I used to work at VIA, insofar 'work' is an applicable term at any Crown 
Corporation. Giving VIA this kind of money is (to paraphrase American 
humourist P.J. O'Rourke) "like giving hard liquor and car keys to 
17-year old boys." In other words, it's a recipe for disaster. Ask 
yourself this: If VIA is based in Montreal, if the Transport Minister, 
Lawrence Cannon, is Harper's "Quebec Lieutenant", if all that flows from 
VIA flows from Montreal -why on Earth was the Big Announcement made in 
Toronto?I'll tell ya why. It was a very clumsy attempt at political 
sleight-of-hand. And we bought it. Well, most people did anyway. See, if 
you didn't know a whole lot about VIA, if you never took a train, and 
you picked up a Toronto Star and saw the dog-n-pony show at Union 
Station you might just think that Toronto had something to do with 
running the show. Hardly. But that's what the Government wants English 
Canada to think -that they actually run something. My apologies for the 
length of this message. As Mark Twain said "I didn't have time to write 
a short one.">>>>>>>


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