[PRCo] Fw: Seattle Starts Testing Streetcar Line

[Jim Holland]

"Bolwerk"  wrote in message news:<13ipfbi6noji9fa at corp.supernews.com>...
 > Michael G. Koerner wrote:
 > > Bolwerk wrote:
 > >> Michael G. Koerner wrote:
 > >>> Bill Bolton wrote:
 > >>>> "Michael G. Koerner" wrote:
 > >>>>
 > >>>>> I certainly hope that those recently rejected
 > >>>>> expansion/modernization plans for the monorail are being held in a
 > >>>>> 'back burner' position, as I do consider THAT to be much more
 > >>>>> long-tern practical and economical than the currently gushed-over
 > >>>>> LRTs.
 > >>>>
 > >>>> ROFL...... less than 5% of the passenger monorails ever built have
 > >>>> turned out to be "long-tern practical and economical" public 
transport
 > >>>> solutions.
 > >>>
 > >>> What percentage of recently built LRT systems in the USA have turned
 > >>> out to be 'practical transportation'? I see failures in them, too.
 > >>
 > >> In the sense that it has riders and goes places, NJT's Hudson-Bergen
 > >> seems successful.
 > >
 > > Did I say that they were ALL failures?
 >
 > No, but it seemed like it was implied (in general, not by you per se)
 > that there isn't much success. Except for a few pork barrel projects,
 > LRT seems to be working quite well. Monorails seem quite the opposite.
 >
 > >>> OTOH, perhaps it is time to look at such monorails NOT in the
 > >>> 'Disneyland' vein but more in a 'transport' vein and bring them into
 > >>> the 21st century. Each mode has advantages and disadvantages and all
 > >>> must be looked into. A private company is building and extending a
 > >>> successful monorail transport line in the Las Vegas, NV Strip area,
 > >>> for example.
 > >>
 > >> That probably fits with Vegas' retro futuristic glitzy look. Why
 > >> would monorails be a solution in Staten Island or Atlanta?
 > >
 > > Did I say that it was?
 >
 > What was?
 >
 > > From my paragraph above: "Each mode has advantages and disadvantages
 > > and all must be looked into."
 >
 > Except in showmanship, and maybe airports, I've never heard of a
 > successful monorail. Successful LRT seems quite common, if the bar for
 > success if usage and moderate farebox recovery.

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