[PRCo] Re: PRCo Routes 1940s

Thu Oct 4 08:41:43 EDT 2007

It's good to check things like this and not rely on the memory.  The date
that through service ended was August 19, 1915.  So that route number (93)
could certainly have been operational.  I didn't have time yesterday to go
through the 1914 news clippings to look at the large advertisement the
company took out to announce the new destination numbers and see if it was
in there.  Maybe when things settle a bit.

We have the Association of Railway Museums convention at PTM right now, and
although I'm not "attending," I'm doing a seminar this morning and helping
to supervise the railroad Sunday morning while the visitors play with the
toys.  Plus who knows what else will crop up.  And it's not that I don't
have other things to do, some of which I would actually get paid to do!!!

Ed

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Edward H. Lybarger
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Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Routes 1940s

I'll have to check the closure date for the through service from New
Kensington, etc.  PRCo didn't begin to use the destination numbers (like
"93") until 1914, and I think the Valley Route strike, and the attendant
refusal of Division 85 to operate their cars into the city, occurred before
that.  So "93" may be a railfan-contrived number, but I'm not certain.

Ed

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Barry, Matthew R
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Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Routes 1940s

...and I think the 89 was used for the "Frankstown Short."   The 59 --
wasn't that for the Homeville route?    And in earlier times, the 93, wasn't
that somehow linked to West Penn Railways' Valley route to New Kensington?

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[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Boris
Cefer
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Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Routes 1940s

What about 84-Larimer?

B
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From: "Jim Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:46 AM
Subject: [PRCo] PRCo Routes 1940s

> Included is an updated route listing with several of the blanks filled in:
>
>
>
> * - Uncertain
> # - See footnotes
> (Blank) - Unknown
>
>  1-Spring Garden
>  2-Etna
>  3-Millvale
>  4-Troy Hill
>  5-Spring Hill
>  6-Brighton Road
>  7-Charles St Penn Station
>  8-Perrysville
>  9-Charles St Transfer
> 10-West View
> 11-East St
> 12-Evergreen
> 13-Emsworth
> 14-Avalon
> 15-Bellevue
> 16-Shadeland *
> 17-Reedsdale *
> 18-Woods Run
> 19-Western
> 20-Rebecca
> 21-Fineview
> 22-Crosstown
> 23-Sewickley
> 24-Schoenville
> 25-Island Ave
> 26-West Park
> 27-Carnegie
> 28-Heidelberg
> 29-Thornburg
> 30-Crafton-Ingram
> 31-Sheraden-Ingram
> 32-P&LE Transfer
> 33-Mt. Washington via West End
> 34-Elliott
> (35) Charleroi #
> (36) Washington #
> 37-Shannon
> 38-Mt Lebanon
> 39-Brookline
> 40-Mt Washington
> 41-Shiloh St *
> 42-Dormont
> 43-Neeld Ave
> 44 Knoxville - Penna Sta.
> 45-
> 46-Brownsville
> 47-Carrick via Tunnel
> 48-Arlington
> 49-Beltzhoover
> 50-Carson St.
> 51-Bon Air *
> 52-36th St Shuttle
> 53-Carrick
> 54- (See 77/54 below)
> 55-Homestead & East Pittsburgh via 2nd Ave
> 56-McKeesport via 2nd Ave.
> 57-Glenwood
>       See note below
> 58-Greenfield
> 59-
> 60-Homestead-Homewood
> 61-Library St.
> 62-Trafford
> 63-Trafford Express * (also Corey Ave.)
> 64-Wilkinsburg - East Pittsburgh
> 65-Munhall
> 66-Wilkinsburg via Forbes
> 67-Swissvale-Rankin-Braddock
> 68-McKeesport
> 69-Squirrel Hill
> 70-
> 71-Negley
> 72-
> 73-Highland
> 74-
> 75-Wilkinsburg
> 76-Hamilton (or Hamilton-Jane St.)
> 77/54-North Side-Bloomfield-Carrick
> 78-Laketon *
> 79-
> 80-
> 81-Atwood
> 82-Lincoln
> 83-
> 84-
> 85-Bedford
> 86-
> 87-Ardmore
> 88-Frankstown (or Frankstown-short)
> 89-
> 90-
> 91-
> 92-
> 93-
> 94-Aspinwall (or Sharpsburg)
> 95-Butler St *
> 96-East Liberty-62nd
> 97-
> 98-Glassport
> 99-Evans Ave
>
>
>
>
> Notes:
> Route numbers not shown on rollsign
>     24    Schoenville
>     35    Charleroi
>                     Library
>                     Finleyville
>                     Riverview
>                     Donora
>                     Roscoe
>     36    Washington
>                     Canonsburg
>     Route number and name not shown on rollsign
>             38-A Mt.Lebanon-Castle Shannon Transfer
>
>     Miscellaneous
>             Car House
>             Kennywood
>             West View Park
>             Duquesne Gardens
>             Forbes Field
>             Pitt Stadium
>             Chartered
>             Special (Low-floors and 3800's)  (3700's and 3750's uncertain)
>
>      Note:   57 Route Name not shown on 4200's I vaguely remember that
> there was a 57-A and/or 58-A but I do not recall the wording thereon.
>
> SPECIAL did not have appear on the PCCs but it did appear on the rolls
> for the low-floors and 3800's. Uncertain about the others.
>
>
> ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^
> Jim  Holland
> .
> Studying Pittsburgh Railways Company