[PRCo] Re: Route 86 East Liberty

Boris Cefer westinghouse at iol.cz
Thu Sep 6 06:08:44 EDT 2007


Yes, Pavarotti is dead :-(

I am a bit confused by the Wilkinsburg trackage. Are there any good 
Wilkinsburg pictures with descriptions?

B

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
To: "- 1714 PRCo__WP__JTC -" <pittsburgh-railways at lists.dementia.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Route 86 East Liberty


> .
> You plan on living for quite a while, Y~e~s~?~?~?
> .
> Thought you were cool to cold on writing books after the PCC experience.
> .
> All sound very interesting.    You emphasized in the books that the PCC
> is Evolutionary but there are some Dudes in Oz or NZ or thereabouts that
> say that modern lrvs are totally new creations and totally unrelated to
> anything else - according to them they reinvented the wheel And Much
> More~!~!~!
> .
> Will be interesting to see the criteria by which TrolleyCars are
> classified as Significant from engineering perspective.
> .
> I was going to change the sub line to  PROJECTS  but will leave it as I
> found the very brief study on the 86 to be quite Fascinating.     This
> led to the latter day 87, a combo of two routes - one from downtown to
> E.Liberty // Tioga and one from Wilkensburg to E.Pgh / Ardmore.
> Every little detail could be boring  --  limits need to be set.
> Since both Penn and Liberty were solid two way double track
> thoroughfares for at least a decade or more, it would be interesting to
> know what lines served each street.     Maybe some routes served both
> --  IB on one and OB on the other then crossover back to regular route!
> .
> Wonder how 'Express' was defined then  --  A Faster Ride Between Two
> Points than Alternative travel?     Would seem that the 86 would still
> run locally but offered a route between E.Lib and dntn that was faster
> than traditional 88.     Today an Xpress is used to make for faster
> trips for those who live at the outer ends of a line - stops are local
> to a point then the vehicle dead heads to dntn for instance - reverse in
> the PM.
> .
> Just got the news on the radio coming home at 2-AM Wed/night Thur/morn
> that Pavarotti has passed - Just 71 (hit my inet news just an hour
> earlier.)     We were in a restaurant in North Beach about 25+ years ago
> when he came in with others  --  every so often they would belt out a
> few bars  --  private concert that was Far More Than Exhilarating~!~!
>
> -- 
> *Jim Holland* 




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