[PRCo] Re: Millvale & roll signs & Interurbans?

[Mark McGuire]

Interesting that Ken showed us a photo of 1711 with SHANNON-LIBRARY dest. sign right before it was painted to gray. I have a few photos of this car in gray with just LIBRARY in the sign. Anyone know the reason for this?

-- Jim Holland <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com> wrote:
Also, ALL City cars would have  'Chartered' as well as  'Kennywood.'
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The Interurbans had Only Interurban destinations::
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RIVERVIEW
LIBRARY
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CASTLE  SHANNON
CANONSBURG
CHARLEROI
PITTSBURGH
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WASHINGTON
CHARTERED
CAR  HOUSE
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We have had this discussion before  --  I got this list from a former 
PTM President who 'had' these for sale  --  Very Expensive and The Date 
Hunter printed them was 1949.12.12 which is Well After A~L~L 
Interurban_PCCs were in service~!~!     Ed has a list that is in a 
little different order.
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The dash lines above is a seam in the listing.
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Shannon-Library
Shannon-Drake
.......added above Riverview by PRCo
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Shannon-Washington
Shannon-Charleroi
.......Added between Charleroi and Pgh by PRCo.
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After the 1953 cutback many of the Interurban_PCCs received South Hills 
destination signs, but not all of them and it would be difficult to know 
which car had what without someone at the time keeping a list  --  
Dave_H?~!~?~!~?~!
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I have some side signs from various barns and there is some overlap  --  
if I can find them I shall make a list~!~!     Commence Holding Your 
Breath, Please~!~!~!
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A roll with All PRCo routes would not fit into the dustynation mechanism~!~!
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Comments here on the list , much info, and many facts reveal that PRCo 
does things in a very definite and orderly fashion.       The Interurban 
PCCs were strictly used for Library, Drake and Shannon runs into  
({[pat]})  days   ---   Y~E~S  --  there are exceptions but they are 
very unusual.
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ALL   PCCs delivered with same 'livery' with 2 exceptions  --  
-1->--restrictions imposed by WW2 War Powers Board  (affecting 1500s and 
1600s)  and  -2->--1700s which came with Hourglass Dash  --  this 
reveals some of the consistency with which PRCo operated  --  100 -- 
1699 delivered from 1936--1946.
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 > Ed Lybarger wrote:
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 > Each barn had its own list of destinations, though there was
 > some repetition...all the signs had CAR HOUSE and the
 > urban signs had STADIUM-FORBES FIELD.
 > The interurbans had only destinations that were relevant.

 > This said, let me be quick to point out that these city
 > destination signs changed from time to time as routes
 > were re-assigned from closed car houses and the like.

-----Original Message-----
 >> On <mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org%5DOn> 
Behalf Of ROBERT R ROCKWELL

 >> I see in factory photos , St Louis shipped some cars
 >> with rolls installed, some appeared to have empty
 >> light bulb sockets in the window. So, I wonder
 >> how rolls in a town as big as Pgh were managed?
 >> Did each barn have its own specific roll ?
 >> Would a Charleroi 1700 have a "21 Fineview" available?

 >> Robert Rockwell
 >> w3syt1 at msn.com<mailto:w3syt1 at msn.com>
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