[PRCo] Re: DustyNation Signs

[Jim Holland]

 > Ed wrote:
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 > Some of the signs that went in fantrip cars bordered on the
 > ludicrous. I was on trips in the '70s with such destinations as:

 > GOTHAM CITY via BATCAVE
 > NOWHERE IN PARTICULAR

 > The most amusing part was that patrons waiting for the
 > regular car never looked up...they just got sore when
 > you told them it was a private car. The rollsign might
 > as well not have existed as far as they were concerned.
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Y~E~S~!~!~!~!       This has been my experience for 30+ years in SF as 
well and underscores what I have said before  --  peebles are peebles no 
matter where you go~!~!     Goes along with my 10% theory taken from the 
Investing world  (which says that a 10%  *_Average_*  Annual Yield Is 
Excellent)  where maybe 10% of the peebles watch the signs, 10% of the 
info on this list is of Personal Interest,  *_Maybe_*  only 10% is 
accurate  (And we Know whose Posts are Accurate 99_44/100% of the 
time~!~!~!,) etc. etc., put 100% effort into a project but expect only a 
10% yield~!~!~!
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Working Run_153_/_30 in the late 1980s - Flyer Trolley Coach.     We get 
into Chinatown and Asian man says:     """Your Sign said 
15-Kearny~!~!~!"""     Share Kearny Street with 15 Dieseaseal bus for 
3-blocks then diverge.       Flyer TCs had Only Trolley Destinations  
(for obvious reasons)  so I didn't have such a sign.      Refuted what 
he said and he says that I Changed The Signs and calls me a Liar.  I 
rolled the sign so he could see that 15 doesn't exist but he just 
stooooood there scowling with his hands behind his back.       
*_Normally_*  Asians are quite good about such incidents, but this man 
was an exception.     He probably saw my Run_#  And  Then  Only  Saw  
What  He  Wanted  To  Saw~!~!~!
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The Above  I~S  The  Rule when a passenger has found that he is on the 
wrong beese  --  driver // operator changed the signs and is a 
Liar~!~!~!     Why don't all the other passengers make the same claim 
then~?~!~?     We See What We Want To See  --  remember that on Jury 
Duty~!~!~!
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Traveling Westbound on Sutter and a passenger comes up  (already on bus 
for many blocks)  and asks when we will reach Candlestick Park  (Park 
is  W~A~Y  SE  --  udder direction~!~!)       I say Not Until the 12th 
of Never~!~!~!     Apparently newbie to bus riding - thought he just 
jumped on any available bus and it went where he was going~!~!~!
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My outer terminal is on Presidio facing southbound.     When I leave I 
go around the block to come back to Presidio heading North.     Bus 
garage is 4-blocks south of the terminal.     When I make a relief at 
4-PM there is a bus which comes out of the garage and heads due north on 
Presidio to route 10-min ahead of me - I tell passengers this, point to 
bus zone across the street, and they say:    """But I Want To Go That 
Way"""  --  and they point North~!~!~!       This has been going on for 
Well Over 20 Years and  EveryOne  save two or three says exactly the 
same thing~!~!~!     Udderly amazing~!~!~!
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Peebles here donut watch the signs and wouldn't know what to do with the 
signs if they did  --  ours list route and Terminal Downtown and 
Terminal outer end depending on direction of travel.     With rolls our 
signs were split - curbside is the route  (3-JACKSON  for me)  other 
side would say  SUTTER/MARKET  for downtown and  PRESIDIO/CALIFORNIA  
when heading outbound  --  with electronic signs either both are 
displayed simultaneously or they alternate between route and 
terminal.     There are cutback signs for short turns but it is  
GUARANTEED  that no one ever sees that~!~!~!     Think PRCo system was 
better in that regard  --  43-NEELD  is Much Better than  42-DORMONT__NEELD.
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Here are  *_some_*  special signs  (There are Many Other Routine Signs)  
on our electronic signs in SF  (now, as a matter of expediency for the 
programmer with the DVAS system, ALL buses carry ALL route signs, even 
though Trolley Coaches can't work the TrolleyCar and diseaseal bus 
lines:::::)
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9900   TO  STREETCARS
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9901      ASK  DRIVER
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9904      CANDLESTICK  PARK
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9905      AT&T  PARK
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9906      METRO  SHUTTLE
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9907      SEE  SIGN  BELOW
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9908      AMBULANCE
       Also on ALL coaches on roll sign days, TC and diseaseal.
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9909      POLICE  SERVICE
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9910      RED  CROSS  SERVICE
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9913      OPERA  SERVICE
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9915      CONVENTION
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9919      SF  NEW  YEAR
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9921      BAY  TO  BREAKERS
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9923      SAN  FRANCISCO
             alternates with:
             EVERYBODY'S  FAVORITE  CITY
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9927      [MUNI  LOGO]
             sometimes referred to as 2 snakes mating~!~!~!
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9928      MOSCONE  CENTER
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9930      EXCURSION
             geese this one replaces  CHARTERED
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9998      NEW  BUS  IN  TESTING
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NOWHERE  IN  PARTICULAR  is not on our electronic signs  --  it was on 
the roll signs  --  I have a listing somewhere and will post it as a jpg 
if and when I find it~!~!~!
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When I get onto the last leg of my bus route on my last  (pull-In)  
trip, I sometimes change the sign to one of these exotic ones  --  I 
pulled in with  OPERA  SERVICE  displayed last night  --  NO--ONE  
noticed, not even Muni peebles~!~!~!
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-- 
*Jim Holland*

Studying *Pittsburgh Railways Company*

....................From 1930 -- 1950

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