[PRCo] Re: PRCo__PCC__#100

[Boris Cefer]

I will have to find more time to study your theory, Mr. J. Can we find any 
articles on the introduction of car 100 in vintage transit magazines???

B

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
To: "- 1714 PRCo__WP__JTC -" <pittsburgh-railways at lists.dementia.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 5:53 PM
Subject: [PRCo] PRCo__PCC__#100


> ""O-Tai""  --  as we said in Uncle Sam's Canoe Club~!~!
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> Lettuce take a look at the literature at hand to see what we can 
> determine.
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> The following lists the SLCCo Job_#, Quantity, Customer, Order Date,
> Shipping Dates In That Order  (Job_#s run consecutively; a few are
> skipped for expediency:::::)
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> 1600   099   B&QT NY   1935.06.24   1936.08.19--1937.01.08
> 1601   027   BTCo MD   1936.01.31   1936.08.29--1936.11.19
> 1602   083   CTA - IL  1936.02.28   1936.10.22--1937.01.29
> 1603   001   PRCo PA   1936.04.06   1936.07.23
> 1604   100   PRCo PA   1936.07.23   1937.01.20--1937.05.20
> 1607   001   BERy MA   1936.10.01   1937.05.19
> 1610   100   PRCo PA   1937.04.01   1937.10.09--1938.01.21
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> Above Information from Lind's book on SLCCo, pg.366.
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> *_Generally_*  the Notes to the Job_# in Lind's book will mention that a
> car was pulled for another order and to see Job_#___.    Nothing so
> mentioned for Job_#s 1600, 1601, 1602, 1603, & 1604.     Note for
> Job_#-1607 (pg.365) states:  """The car was diverted from car Job_1600."""
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> The shortest time between ordering and delivery is PRCo #100 - 3+
> months.     The next fastest times are both PRCo 10s and 11s with about
> 6-months between order and first delivery.
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> """THE  FIRST  CAR  was rushed to completion and had some hand-built
> components when it was delivered to Brooklyn & Queens [1001] in May
> 1936..."""
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> """THE  SECOND  CAR,  Pittsburgh  100,  was rushed to completion to
> permit Westinghouse Electric to demonstrate its PCC equipment.     It
> was an appropriate move because the manufacturer was headquartered in
> Pittsburgh.     The exterior of the car was all but identical to the
> Brooklyn cars but the Pittsburgh interior design provided more space for
> standees."""
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> The above two quotes from photo captions pgs.46_&_47 respectively of
> Demoro's book on the PCC.
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> """In March_1935 the ERPCC released its specifications for the PCC car
> and two months later B&QT asked for bids for production of 100,  300,
> and  500  cars.     B&QT had contemplated entering the equipment
> brokerage business;  only 100 cars would have been built for use in
> Brooklyn, the others were for resale.     As it turned out, only one car
> was ever sold to another operator.     SLCCo records note that Boston's
> 3001 was ordered by B&QT."""
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> """In the spring of 1936 the Sunday newspaper supplements carried the
> news that PRCo had purchased its first PCC car.     Although the single
> vehicle comprised the fourth order placed with SLCCo, number 100 was the
> first PCC car delivered in the world.     It ran in free demonstration
> service for two weeks starting September_12, and was then assigned to
> Craft Ave. Carhouse for service on route 50-Carson-St.     The Railways
> Co. was so pleased with the modern car that it placed seven additional
> orders with SLCCo between July_1936 and September_1947."""
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> """Car 100 entered revenue service on route 50-Carson-St. in August_1936
> and continued to work that line out of Carrick Car House for the next
> 11-years..."""
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> The above three quotes from pg.041 (text, 2nd paragraph,)  pg.162 (text,
> first full paragraph,)  and pg.163 photo caption of PCC Coast to
> Coast.     Please note discrepancies in PRCo quotes.
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> """The early production PCCs were not without their problems, as can be
> detected by lags between delivery dates and the start of revenue
> service.     It should be noted, however, that extensive concept and
> design testing by the ERPCC during the period 1932 thru 1934 prevented
> any major problems.     The first Brooklyn production car [1001] was
> shipped to the TRC in June_1936 for three months of testing....     The
> remainder of the order began arriving in Brooklyn late in August, which
> permitted revenue operation to begin on October_1."""
> """The first five Baltimore cars were also given three months of
> pre-revenue testing..."""
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> The above text is from bottom pg.52 through top pg.53 of PCC Car Fought
> Back.
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> """It is not generally appreciated that although Pittsburgh #100 was
> ordered after the Brooklyn, Baltimore and Chicago cars, it was in fact
> the very first PCC car to be completed, delivered and put into
> service.     Finished in June_1936, it was running in Pittsburgh a few
> days later, over four months before the Brooklyn cars went into 
> traffic."""
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> This quote from photo caption, pg.196 of Andrew Young's book on
> SLCCo.     Pg.207 Seems To Indicate that Brooklyn ordered 500-PCC cars.
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> P~H~O~T~O~S::::
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> Pg.076 PCC Fought Back, 2nd photo #100 *suggests* blooming trees at
> SLCCo!     Pg.091 shows broadside of #100 in Homewood with Trees in Full
> Bloom  --  Appears Brand Spanking New~!~!     Pg.159 shows interior with
> full bloom bushes visible outside.
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> Pg.047 of Demoro's PCC book shows same identical broadside of #100 as
> pg.091 above,  PITTSBURGH  in side dustynation sign as above.
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> Pg.196 of Young's book shows Gordon and Fitzgerald with #100 in
> Homewood, Very Possibly same time that Pg.047 of Demoro and Pg.091 of
> Fought Back  --  full bloom trees.     Same op cab on bottom pg.197 as
> pg.159 of Fought Back showing full bloom bushes outside.     Interior at
> SLCCo above that but bushes / trees not evident~!~!
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> PCC Coast to Coast pg.162 shows very similar photo to Pg.196 of Young's
> book but w/o Gordon / Fitzgerald - full bloom trees  --  only date in
> photo caption is  ""..summer of our youth..""
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> What can we Seduce from the Above about PRCo PCC #100~?~?~?
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> -01->--It was a Bonafide Stand Alone Order  --  Not a Car pulled from
> another order.     Lind's notes (Job_#-1607) and the 1st quote from PCC
> Coast to Coast about B&QT also indicates that only BERy 3001 was pulled
> from the NY order.
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> -02->--Demoro indicates that PRCo PCC_#100 was the second car to start
> construction.
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> -03->--Young indicates that PRCo PCC_#100 was::
> .......4th order  (confirmed by All Above)
> .......First PCC car to be completed.
> .......First PCC car to be delivered.
> .......First PCC car to be in Revenue Service - Collecting Fares!
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> -04->--ALL  the photos show the car In Summer in Pgh - photos lack
> specific dating.
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> The above also raises the question of the super fast construction time
> of #100 which could lead us to assume:
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> -A->--Order date is Wrong /
> ..............Typo error and should be backed
> ..............up to near Brooklyn order date in 1935.
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> -B->--Order date is Correct;  consider the following::
> .......1547 sent directly to Twin Cities.
> .......1674 and 1675 sent directly to Detroit.
> .......Order / Delivery Dates
> ..............Less Than 1 month apart for Twin Cities
> ..............About 1-month apart for Detroit
> .......Above two Much Later than construction of 100, almost decade.
> .......Completed PRCo cars sent to each company above.
> .......Above 2 companies Non-PCC and SLCCo
> ..............eager to entice them as customers.
> .......Similar for PRCo - SLCCo eager to entice PRCo
> ..............as customer so takes a car under
> ..............construction but not necessarily
> ..............designated for B&QT, BTCo and certainly
> ..............not for CTA and completes it for PRCo.
> .......Westinghouse might have *urged* SLCCo to rush a
> ..............car for PRCo to show off its equipment.
> .......Wide gauge trucks available as BTCo is slightly
> ..............wider than PRCo~!~!
> .......Interior arrangement / materials readily available.
> .......Exterior of All Early PCCs Highly Similar.
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> D-E-M-O-N-S-T-R-A-T-O-R::::
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> -P1->--.......for PRCo to see if it likes PCCs.
> -P2->--.......for Pgh. as an example of More
> .....................Like TrolleyCars On Order
> .....................for Delivery in the
> .....................Very Near Future.
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> From the evidence presented #01, #03, #04 all seem to be factual.
> PRCo PCC #100 could have been delivered in May  --  seem to remember
> that but haven't been able to find verification.
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> "B"  above seems the most logical as well as does P2 as Tens seemed to
> have been ordered Before / As #100 was delivered.
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> -- 
> *Jim Holland*
>
> Studying *Pittsburgh Railways Company*