[PRCo] Re: How many people ride transit...

[John Swindler]

Thanks, Ed.  That is good to know for end of next week.
 
I've seen $3.71 in Lancaster County.  
 
There has been a significant reduction in auto travel recently.  Will be interesting to see if this trend continues after the summer vacation period.
 
John
 
> From: trams2 at comcast.net> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: How many people ride transit...> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:46:55 -0400> > Gasoline was $3.49 yesterday at several locations on the Carlisle Pike west> of Harrisburg. Down from $3.75 last weekend. But it's still typically> $3.89 south of Pittsburgh. On the other hand, it never went above $3.99 in> my neighborhood, so maybe the stations are playing catch-up.> > -----Original Message-----> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of John> Swindler> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 7:58 PM> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: How many people ride transit...> > I would be curious to see what $4 gas will do to ridership on several light> rail lines, but we will have to wait awhile for the numbers.> > After a billion dollars spent, Pittsburgh seems stuck around mid-20k in> weekday light rail ridership.> > John> > > > Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:17:16 -0700> From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com> Subject:> [PRCo] Re: How many people ride transit...> To:> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > ----- Original Message ----> > > From:> John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>> > To:> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > Sent: Friday, August 1, 2008 12:54:43> PM> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: How many people ride transit...> > > > > > Hi> Fred> > > > Within Pennsylvania, as SEPTA goes, so goes the state. At the> national level, > > as New York City goes, so goes the country.> > > >> Remember when APTA was advertising the increase in public transit ridership> in > > the US several years ago, and how the percentage increase exceeded> the > > percentage increase for autos. That was due to New York City, and> primarily the > > subway. It was a time when there was a large influx of> immigrants - > > particularly eastern Europe.> > > > For Pittsburgh and the> T, comparing with New York City is meaningless. Two > > different leagues.> The bett!> er comparison is with their peers, and that is where > > there are some> unexpected numbers. Should be in the archives.> > Not unlike comparing> transit and cherry pie isn't it. My initial reaction to comparison was the> same as yours, Mr.Swindler, but in reality it seems that Mr.Schneider is not> making a comparison per se but finds the ridership figures staggering in NY> - Pgh is mentioned to give a sense of these staggering numbers.> > This> gives a whole new dimension to spam-cans or sardine-cans doesn't it.> > >> Phil> > > > > > > Also, might want to check your PAT bus number of 60,000 -> sounds like you got a > > garage daily ridership number rather then the> system number.> > > > John> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> From:> fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: > > [PRCo] How many people ride> transit...> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:27:20 -0400> > > > While we look about> Pittsburgh and how many people ride the T ... > something > > over 25,000 a> day in fiscal year 2006 accor!> ding to the > figures PAT submitted > > to the FTA ... now think for a few> seconds > about what big really is.> New York > > City Transit Authority> counts over 6 million fares on a > normal weekday in the > > subways ...> that is 1 thousand 5 hundred times > more than Pittsburgh.> > They > > also> moved 3 million more people a day on buses compared to > PAT's 60,000.> > >> > It simply boggles the mind.> > When a friend of mine pointed out that mass> > > transit was a "big city > thing," I studied it to prove or disprove his> point. > > The most > recent nationwide data I could get by company was the> 1907 U. S. > > > census of electric railways. After I put every company's> passenger > counts in a > > spreadsheet arrayed by city size, and in!> >> 1907 I assumed > that a city of 100,000 or more was a BIG CITY, I found that> > > 80 > percent of the nickels fell into conductor's mitts in big cities.> My > > > friend, curmudgeon first class from New Jersey, was absolutely >> correct. And > > looking at the numbers for New York, Washington, > Chicago> ... isn'!> t has not > > changed. If anything, it might be 90 > percent today.> > By> the way, if any of > > you want a list of all the current light rail > lines> and subway lines in the > > United States, I am attaching it to > this> message. The server should pull it > > off and make a separate > link to it.> It is a Excel file so you will need Excel > > to open it. > However, the> April 27th version of the same list is on the East > > Penn > Traction Club> web site and this one will eventually get there.> > If any > > one wants> updated passenger figures for all the light rail > lines, badger me > > and> I might just put that on this web site too. I'm > testing the waters.> > > >> Fred Schneider> > > > > > -- Attached file removed !> > by Ecartis and put> at URL below --> -- Type: application/octet-stream>> > -- Size: 239k (244736> bytes)> -- URL : > >> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/LRT-HEAVY%20RAIL%20CHRON> OLOGY72708.xls> > > > > > > _____________________________________!> ____________________________> > Time for vacation? 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