[PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line?

[John Swindler]

Hi Ken
 
The route 23 cars were seldom nearly empty, even into the SEPTA era.   It is/was one of the heaviest routes in Philadelphia.  So is/was 60 and 56.  
 
Route 53 Wayne Ave. was another matter.  And 47 and 50 were not that busy either.
 
I'd appreciate Rich's comments as I'm just trying to remember ridership statistics from the 1980s.  Today would probably be a different observation.  That is the reason for use of the past tense above.
 
John
 
 
> From: ktjosephson at embarqmail.com> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line?> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:31:43 -0700> > I do know for a fact that many, many people living along St. Louis' > Hodiamont line raised a big fuss when that line was slated for bustitution, > but they did not have the political clout the people in Philadelphia had > twenty years later to keep the nearly empty Route 23 cars shuttling past > their homes for ambience.....heck, even that line has been "suspended" since > the early 1990s.> > I do know some people in the South Hills put up a good fight to save the > Library, Drake and Mount Lebanon lines.> > Remember, though, some of the loudest streetcar opponents were motorists who > didn't live in a particular car line's corridor, but drove through it, > hating to drive on the tracks and getting "trapped" behind streetcars > picking up passengers.> > I know a person who rode and wanted the 42/38 saved, but was happy when the > 53 was abandoned because he hating driving in traffic with streetcars.> > K.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry MATT Matsick" <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:16 AM> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line?> > > > My question when PRCo/PAT decided to cut a street car line, did not the > > people fuss about it?> > I was in the Service during the 60s, if I had been in town I would have > > tried to stop it, but was> > it just the sign of the times? I remember when the drop the Donora car? I > > was just 11 but I was> > upset. Now cities are looking and the establishment of new RAIL LINES , > > I guess it is what> > comes around goes around! Groups thought?> > Jerry Matsick> > Former Donora/Pittsburgher (North Hills)> >> > --> > Jerry "Matt" Matsick> > You don't stop laughing because> > you grow old. You grow old> > because you stop laughing from the> > River City by the sea!> > Jacksonville, Florida!> >> > -------------- Original message from "Ken & Tracie" > > <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com>: -------------- > >> >> >> OFF TOPIC WARNING!> >>> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Fred Schneider"> >> To:> >> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:28 AM> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Greyhound crime> >>> >>> >> >I love the choice of advertisements that go with it, Philip. Teen> >> > teeth whiteners and high blood pressure medicines! They're a hoot.> >>> >> Back in 1981 or '82, some jerk in Waukesha, Wisconsin kidnapped his> >> estranged wife (she lived across the street from me), murdered her,> >> hacksawed her head from her body, dumped the body in a cornfield and > >> burnt> >> the head in his parents' wood burning stove.> >>> >> Anyway, I was listening to a news report about the case some months > >> later.> >> Immediately after the newscaster mentioned that the suspect had sawed off> >> his wife's head, they went to a commercial break. The commercial was for > >> a> >> home improvement store and began with the sound of somebody sawing. Then > >> the> >> music started with people cheerfully singing, "When you're working at > >> home,> >> and you need a helping hand.............."> >>> >> K.> >>> >>> > > > 
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