[PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line?

[Fred Schneider]

Agreed.

On Aug 3, 2008, at 3:16 PM, John Swindler wrote:

>
> Hi Ken
>
> The route 23 cars were seldom nearly empty, even into the SEPTA  
> era.   It is/was one of the heaviest routes in Philadelphia.  So is/ 
> was 60 and 56.
>
> Route 53 Wayne Ave. was another matter.  And 47 and 50 were not  
> that busy either.
>
> I'd appreciate Rich's comments as I'm just trying to remember  
> ridership statistics from the 1980s.  Today would probably be a  
> different observation.  That is the reason for use of the past  
> tense above.
>
> John
>
>
>> From: ktjosephson at embarqmail.com> To: pittsburgh- 
>> railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street  
>> car line?> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:31:43 -0700> > I do know for a  
>> fact that many, many people living along St. Louis' > Hodiamont  
>> line raised a big fuss when that line was slated for bustitution,  
>> > but they did not have the political clout the people in  
>> Philadelphia had > twenty years later to keep the nearly empty  
>> Route 23 cars shuttling past > their homes for ambience.....heck,  
>> even that line has been "suspended" since > the early 1990s.> > I  
>> do know some people in the South Hills put up a good fight to save  
>> the > Library, Drake and Mount Lebanon lines.> > Remember, though,  
>> some of the loudest streetcar opponents were motorists who >  
>> didn't live in a particular car line's corridor, but drove through  
>> it, > hating to drive on the tracks and getting "trapped" behind  
>> streetcars > picking up passengers.> > I know a person who rode  
>> and wanted the 42/38 saved, but !
>  was happy when the > 53 was abandoned because he hating driving in  
> traffic with streetcars.> > K.> ----- Original Message ----- >  
> From: "Jerry MATT Matsick" <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net>> To:  
> <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008  
> 10:16 AM> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]End of a Street car line?> > >  
> > My question when PRCo/PAT decided to cut a street car line, did  
> not the > > people fuss about it?> > I was in the Service during  
> the 60s, if I had been in town I would have > > tried to stop it,  
> but was> > it just the sign of the times? I remember when the drop  
> the Donora car? I > > was just 11 but I was> > upset. Now cities  
> are looking and the establishment of new RAIL LINES , > > I guess  
> it is what> > comes around goes around! Groups thought?> > Jerry  
> Matsick> > Former Donora/Pittsburgher (North Hills)> >> > --> >  
> Jerry "Matt" Matsick> > You don't stop laughing because> > you grow  
> old. You grow old> > because you stop laughing from the> > River  
> City by th!
>  e sea!> > Jacksonville, Florida!> >> > -------------- Original  
> message
>  from "Ken & Tracie" > > <ktjosephson at embarqmail.com>:  
> -------------- > >> >> >> OFF TOPIC WARNING!> >>> >>> >> -----  
> Original Message ----- > >> From: "Fred Schneider"> >> To:> >>  
> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 5:28 AM> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re:  
> Greyhound crime> >>> >>> >> >I love the choice of advertisements  
> that go with it, Philip. Teen> >> > teeth whiteners and high blood  
> pressure medicines! They're a hoot.> >>> >> Back in 1981 or '82,  
> some jerk in Waukesha, Wisconsin kidnapped his> >> estranged wife  
> (she lived across the street from me), murdered her,> >> hacksawed  
> her head from her body, dumped the body in a cornfield and > >>  
> burnt> >> the head in his parents' wood burning stove.> >>> >>  
> Anyway, I was listening to a news report about the case some months  
> > >> later.> >> Immediately after the newscaster mentioned that the  
> suspect had sawed off> >> his wife's head, they went to a  
> commercial break. The commercial was for > >> a> >> home  
> improvement store and began with the!
>   sound of somebody sawing. Then > >> the> >> music started with  
> people cheerfully singing, "When you're working at > >> home,> >>  
> and you need a helping hand.............."> >>> >> K.> >>> >>> > > >
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