[PRCo] Re: New York Times Streetcar Article

[John Swindler]

Harrisburg is ok, if you are into urban homesteading.  Otherwise.....
 
Most of Harrisburg has its bad neighborhoods.  Shipoke along the Susquehanna was one of the worst, but then became gentrified during 1970s.  3rd to 7th street heading north is a disaster area.  Looks like it was hit by Eighth Air Force.
 
There was a decent area heading north along Front to 3rd St., but it is starting to charge for the worst.  Going east Derry St., Walnut St. and State St. corridors are not safe.  And as Fred mentioned, some of the inner Susquehanna Twp. areas are not what they use to be.  Area up around the hospital might still be decent.  Likewise Italian Lake area near the river.  Just don't wander back towards 6th St.
 
You probably won't hear too many police sirens at night on the west shore.  That, and walking around a mall might give a hint as to an area's liveability.  It was safe for me to jog around Camp Hill at night.  It's not safe in Harrisburg.
 
John 
 
 
 
 
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: New York Times Streetcar Article> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:49:03 -0400> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > Except that in terms of unemployment and employment, Harrisburg is as > good as any place. The areas east and south of the mountains in > Pennsylvania (and outside of Philadelphia County) have since the > 1960s had a better economic picture than the national averages. They > still do. Seasonally-adjusted unemployment in Harrisburg-Carlisle > was 4.4 percent in June, the USA rate was 5.5. Perhaps the Inquirer > just wanted to make someplace else seem worse than Philadelphia?> > Certainly the city of Harrisburg has its bad neighborhoods. Inner > Susquehanna Township is not too great. Parts of Steelton leave > something to be desired. But remember my earlier point that capital > cities have always been a magnet for people who could find work > elsewhere, particularly minority races and ethnicities.> > Hartford's rate was 5.7 on an unadjusted basis in June -- identical > to the national rate.> > > On Aug 19, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Richard Allman wrote:> > > what about our great state capital city? Unless I'm missing > > something, it's> > still a dump. A few years ago the Inquirer ran an article entitled > > something> > like "Harrisburg:Is this any place to have a state capital?" and > > subtitled> > "not even a nice place to visit" (as oppposed to places that are > > nowhere to> > live but nice enough to visit.) Then a litany of what ailed. > > Haven't been in> > the city since Fred Schneider's retirement do, but his departure > > cannot> > possibly have helped matters! Then there's Hartford, Conn, a ontime > > very> > pleasant , vibrant place which is now downright scary-I was there a > > couple> > years ago and it's really hit the skids. As one involved in > > healthcare,> > trust me it takes more than hospitals to sustain a region. Richmond > > VA has> > seen better times as well. And Charleton, W Va-did it ever flourish?> >> > RICH> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Derrick J Brashear" <shadow at dementia.org>> > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:25 PM> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: New York Times Streetcar Article> >> >> >> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Joshua Dunfield wrote:> >>> >>> On 2008-08-17, Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net> wrote:> >>>> The only state capital that comes to my mind that is having> >>>> real economic problems is Trenton NJ, which for years had a > >>>> sign on> >>>> the bridge over the Delaware River that read, TRENTON MAKES, THE> >>>> WORLD TAKES.> >>>> >>> The sign's still there; you can see it from the R7/Amtrak.> >>> >> DRJTC (I think, rather than DRPA) owns the bridge, and it's> >> "toll-supported" unlike the adjacent US1 highway bridge.> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > 
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