[PRCo] Re: Indian cultural differences

[Phillip Clark Campbell]

Mr.Swindler;


Excellent comments.  Mr.Schneider's statistics are the beginning of much better comparisons;  deaths/miles driven seems even better doesn't it.  Facts and 'figgers' can be used to make any argument seems to be what you are saying.  Please forgive but I forgot that until your reminder.

Another old saying we need to remember - take it with a grain of salt  (or two.)


Phil





----- Original Message ----
> From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 12:06:58 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Indian cultural differences
> 
> 
> 
> A lot of statistics aren't worth the paper they are printed on, such as consumer 
> price index, unemployment,  highway fatalities and transit ridership numbers.  
> All are nothing more then estimates with a lot of assumptions.  But they can 
> provide some means of arriving at ballpark estimates.
> 
> And this is nothing compared to some financial reports. (which also aren't worth 
> the paper they are printed on)  But best not go there.
> 
> My favorite reference is an internal memo from a certain transit authority that 
> talks about a "heuristically derived formula" for their ridership statistics.  
> And yes, I had to look that word up.
> 
> John
> > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:48:21 -0800> From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com> Subject: [PRCo] 
> Re: Indian cultural differences> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > 
> Mr.Schneider;> > > This certainly puts it in perspective doesn't it.> > It has 
> been stated that the U.S. has higher work place injuries as well within the last 
> couple decades; I have not heard any comparisons recently. Relative to injuries 
> one has to wonder about the criteria for reporting; this could vary considerably 
> between countries, even locations inside borders.> > > Phil> > > > > > ----- 
> Original Message ----> > From: Schneider Fred > > To: 
> pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 11:28:33 
> AM> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Indian cultural differences> > > 
> http://www.driveandstayalive.com/info%20section/statistics/statsmulticountry-percapita-2004.htm> 
> > > > Most recent data I could find was 2004. "Close enough for govmint > > 
> work."> > > > Yes, China killed 107,077 people on!
>   their roads in 2004 but that is > > out of a population of 1.3 billion people. 
> India lost 90,000 out of > > a billion people. We lost 42,636 out of 293.5 
> million.> > > > China had 8.26 fatalities per 100,000 people,> > India had 8.33 
> and> > we had 14.53.> > > > Surprisingly, the worst death rate was> > Russia 
> with almost 25 deaths per 100,000 population.> > > > Germany, with a motor 
> vehicle registration rate about the same as > > ours but with people driving 
> about half as many miles per year as we > > do and with a tremendous number of 
> miles of express highways (very > > well designed ones) with no speed limits 
> outside of rural areas, has > > a fatality rate half that of the U. S. A. > > 
> Their rate is 7.09 per 100,000.> > > > > > 
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