[PRCo] Re: Indian cultural differences

[John Swindler]

We will probably go by boat, preferably one of those "dam" boats.  (we've already been on Maasdam and Veendam)  Would also like to visit Crete and Santorini (sp).  But that's how we got to Nova Scotia and New Brunswick last summer.  Went by boat from Boston.  It was cheap, easy, and we had a good time.
 
There are two Med. trips under consideration.  One from Barcelona to places like Casablanca, and Canary Is. and the other from Rome into eastern Med.  That's why the goal (and hope) is to stay healthy, at least for a couple more years.  The west Med. might include a short stay in Spain to include some new coastal light rail lines (Phil Craig videos), and the latter might include some extra time for Milan and Tuscany.  
 
I rather like the idea of getting away from Pa. in the winter time, although this year will probably be the Caribbean again.  Can't pass up the price (:>)
 
With an apology if this gets any other list members in trouble with their spouses.
 
John
 
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Indian cultural differences> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:54:37 -0500> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > I'm absolutely positive that it's a lot of pedestrians.> > They've already sold to the middle class. Tata Motors wants that > $2000 car to go to the lower middle and lower classes.> > To use one of your own expressions, "that to." Let me know when you > find the right price to Turkey. Look to see what Rick Steves > offers. I've never taken one of his trips but I have crossed paths > with one of his groups in France. Very impressive group. He > insists that you sign up front that you will be willing to be nice > and get along with people.> > On Dec 6, 2008, at 5:50 PM, John Swindler wrote:> > >> >> > You just proved the point, Fred, that it is a distortion to use > > population. Most people in India do not own a car, yet still have > > high death rate. Perhaps a lot of pedestrians.> >> > That is also why India is viewed as an opportunity for global > > expansion. If only 10% of population is middle class, that's still > > 100 million consumers.> >> > As I said, the tales of your trip confirmed our suspicion that we > > had no need nor inclination to visit India. I'd rather go to > > Ephesus, and now just waiting for the right price. I won't live > > long enought to make much more then a dent in the places I'd like > > to visit, but that is ok too. India ain't one of them.> >> > John> >> >> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Indian cultural > >> differences> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:54:15 -0500> To: pittsburgh- > >> railways at dementia.org> > I walked to the kitchen, thought for a > >> minute, came back. A > distortion?> > We are accustomed to > >> believing that accidents should be compared to > miles driven. > >> That is a valid concept when the only vehicles in the > street are > >> motor vehicles. I think, John, that it is an invalid > concept > >> when motor vehicles must also share the street with numerous > > >> bicycles, pedestrians, elephants, camels, sleeping cows and so > >> forth.> > The Indians are, in effect, playing baseball, > >> basketball, hockey and > transporting water from one river to > >> another on their backs and you > are trying to tell me we should > >> all conduct this according to the > rules used when playing poker? > >> I don't think we can do it that > way. I think all we can really > >> do is say here is a street and it is > where so many people were > >> killed in a year.> > You need to!> > go there and see it John. I'll tell you like a friend > of > > Marie's told her. Going to India is like getting another Masters > > > Degree. You see things and learn things you never in your life> > > imagined you would see. But none of it fits into the nice neat mold > > > you used for western culture. When you, as an American, say the > > > Indians should drive on our highways more like we do, you have no > > > idea how much they have already adapted. NO IDEA.> > On Dec 6, > > 2008, at 4:33 PM, Schneider Fred wrote:> > > I'm tired of searching > > the internet. Your turn to try to dig out> > mileages.> >> > On Dec > > 6, 2008, at 2:55 PM, John Swindler wrote:> >> >>> >>> >> I knew > > that China was over 100,000 and US was under 50,000 with> >> about > > half due to alcohol. But comparing by population is a> >> > > distortion. How about a death rate per miles driven?? That should> > > >> give a better indication of highway safety. In the end, some> >> > > societies place a much higher value on human life.> >>> >> John> > > >>> >!> >>>>>>>> > _________________________________________________________________> > Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass.> > http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail? > > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008> >> > 
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