[PRCo] Re: Con Cor International Ltd

Richard Allman allmanr at verizon.net
Wed Dec 10 19:33:08 EST 2008


hmmm-anticlimbers? doors? pole shrouds? Toronto stype dash lights and pole 
diving boards?Retrievers(not golden retrievers)? next car lights?roof mats? 
You ARE 'da man!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BobDietrich" <bob.dietrich1 at verizon.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:49 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Con Cor International Ltd


> For any of you who may need some of these parts, when the cars are 
> released
> and if they are missing the parts, let me know.  I may be able to find a
> source for some of them.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Richard
> Allman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:07 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Con Cor International Ltd
>
> yeah, Phil-the car is the original LA Railways order w/ conventional door
> arrangement. If the anticlimbers, pole shrouds, doors, retrievers, roof
> mats,etc had been provided, a lot of variety would be possible. And for 
> the
> trolley modellers who use Orr switches, clearly some modification will be
> necessary to make the cars turn sufficiently sharply. MAybe someone will
> come up w/ an after-market sprue w/ the fittings to make the car more
> versatile. And hopefully conCor is attentive to anticlimbers of right 
> length
>
> for various cities-narrow for Brooklyn, Boston 3001, Baltimore, originally
> narrow for Pittsburgh then full. And no roof mat for Toronto and on and 
> on!
> RICH
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Phillip Clark Campbell" <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:08 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Con Cor International Ltd
>
>
>> Mr.Allman;
>>
>>
>> I wrote to Con Cor yesterday and received a prompt response  (enclosed
>> below.)
>> With such a large market for HO it would certainly seem that your
>> suggestions for
>> a variety of trolley cowls and different doors would be excellent and an
>> easy
>> 'modification'  wouldn't it  --  door space would be open and the 
>> customer
>
>> would snap the desired door configuration into place.  It seems that a
>> little more thought for this product could have produced excellent 
>> variety
>
>> with minimum effort doesn't it.
>>
>> I assume the model is one of the first Air-Electric PCCs for LA  --  if 
>> it
>
>> is the later Air Car
>> then the door configuration will be wrong for virtually all other PCCs
>> won't it.  LA cars
>> did have blinkers so this will work nicely for the Pittsburgh paint
>> schemes.
>>
>> The paint schemes seem to be  'decently' represented don't they:
>>
>> First Group we hope to release sometime in the  Fall 2008
>> Retail Price  $159.98
>>
>> 0001-093001  Los Angeles Car # 3001 (Two Tone yellow)
>> 0001-093002  Philadelphia (Philly Cream Cheese scheme)
>> 0001-093003  Brooklyn Car #   (Tan) (Has Next Car Light)**
>> 0001-093004  Chicago (Green Hornet Scheme)
>> 0001-093005  Pittsburg (Red and Cream Scheme)
>> 0001-093006  San Fran. Muni "Magic Carpet Scheme" (Has Next Car Light)**
>>
>>
>> 2nd Group of PCC Cars to be released Winter 2008 / 09
>> 0001-093007  Join Civil Defense Car (Flag Blue / white / Red)
>> 0001-093008  Pacific Electric (Red / orange) (Has Next Car Light)**
>> 0001-093009  D.C. Transit
>> 0001-093010  Philladephia Orange/ Blue
>> 0001-093011  Baltimore
>> 0001-093012  Boston Elevated Railway
>> The HO PCC cars listed below, are fully painted in the color
>> scheme listed,
>> but no lettering applied, for those of you who might
>> want to decal a car for
>> your own city, or private transit system.
>>
>>
>> 0001-093050  Orange and Tan
>> --best choice if you want to repaint to different color
>> --just use the Orange and Tan as primer coat
>>
>> 0001-093051  LA Two Tone yellow paint- no printing)
>> 0001-093052  Philadelphia (Philly Cream Cheese paint scheme-no printing)
>> 0001-093053  Brooklyn Car   (Tan paint - no printing ) Has "Next Car
>> Light" **
>> 0001-093054  Chicago (Green Hornet Scheme) -no printing
>> 0001-093055  Pittsburg (Red and Cream Scheme) -no printing
>> 0001-093056  San Fran. Muni "Magic Carpet Scheme" -no printing Has "Next
>> Car Light" **
>>
>>
>> 2nd Group of "no printing" cars to be released Winter 2008 / 09
>>
>> 0001-093057  Red/White/Blue patriotic colors -no printing
>> 0001-093058  Pacific Electric (Red / orange) -no printing (Has Next Car
>> light) **
>> 0001-093059  D.C. Transit colors - no printing
>> 0001-093060  Philladephia Orange/ Blue -no printing
>> 0001-093061  Baltimore -colors - no printing
>> 0001-093062  Boston- orange - no printing
>> By contrast the Russian cars in "O"-Scale are specific for whatever 
>> system
>
>> one
>> desires with an endless variety of modifications and paint schemes aren't
>> they.
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message -------- 
>> Subject: Re: "HO" PCC Streetcars
>> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 13:10:51 -0700 (MST)
>> From: concor at con-cor.com
>> To: <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
>> References: <493D746E.9000003>
>>
>>
>> models not ready to photograph till maybe end of Jan.
>> when we have photos we will post on net.
>> Model is of the LA car, single end only, we can not
>> make multiple tooling for various car bodies and
>> specific city differences.
>>
>> When making mass producted model we have to settle on
>> basicly one design, can not do specific differences for
>> each city.
>>
>> Will be up too customer if they want an exact specific
>> city model, or will be happy with something that is close,
>> but maybe not 100% exact.
>>
>> We know about "h", will be fixed..
>>
>> Thank you for your interest.
>> Con-Cor Trains
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>      Hello!
>>>
>>>
>>>  I just noted your offering of  HO  PCC  TrolleyCars:
>>>
>>>  http://all-railroads.com/PCC-Streetcars.html
>>>
>>>      I don't see a picture of the model  --
>>> is it Single End or Double End?   Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
>>> has an "H" on the end which you omitted.   Additionally,
>>> San Francisco and Pacific Electric did not have the
>>> Next  Car  Light.
>>>
>>>  Are you confusing the catcher on the front dash for the
>>> trolley rope with this light?        The picture you show
>>> of San Francisco is a full-fledged double end PCC so it
>>> does have trolley poles on both ends as well as dual
>>> taillights on the dash below the windows but these are not
>>> Next Car Lights.       This would be the cars 1001-1005
>>> and 1006-1015.       The rest of the San Francisco
>>> fleet  --  1016--1040,  1101--1170, and the current
>>> ex-Septa PCCs in San Francisco are all Single End but
>>> sport trolley poles and catchers on both ends.
>>> Much overhead special work where it is safer to change
>>> poles for backing maneuvers.
>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Richard Allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
>>>
>>> I wish that ConCor was doing more prototypic paint schemes besides the 
>>> LA
>>> Rwys original(like the later NCL and LAMTA ones), the Boston 3001, a
>>> selection of Pittsburgh schemes-V front, simple cream and red, 
>>> Torontoand
>>> not bother w/ all the faux stuff-e.g., PE, Washington. And if only they
>>> had
>>> listened to Bob and me and provided a sprue w/ blinker or folding doors,
>>> large or small pole shroud, scalloped front windshield for Phila., KC or
>>> St.
>>> Louis.
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "BobDietrich"
>>> > To:
>>> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:15 AM
>>> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Con Cor International Ltd
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I wrote to Con-Cor a month ago about Pittsburg.  I got a nice reply
>>> >saying
>>> > they would fix it immediately. Are they a government organization?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> Dennis F. Cramer
>>> >>
>>> >> http://all-railroads.com/PCC-Streetcars.html
>>> >> I guess Con-Cor does not realize that Pittsburgh has an "h" on the
>>> >> end.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Dennis F. Cramer
>>
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