[PRCo] Re: Pen's get new luxury hotel

[John Swindler]

Depends on if PAT continues to operate competing bus service, as they have done with the 42S light rail line.  
 
The Early Action program included Skybus from Penn Station to South Hills Village.  There would have been no Sixth/Liberty subway.  The next Skybus section would have extended  TERL from Penn Station to Wilkinsburg, Swissvale or beyond.  It's in the Parsons Brinkerhoff report.  
 
Instead, the East Busway was built.  I've often wondered if this was a case of  "no one (from the state) is going to tell us how to run "our" transit system."  Fred knows the background, and also that this is pure speculation unsupported by any facts.  It's not even an opinion, just an option to consider.
 
John   
 
 
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pen's get new luxury hotel> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:08:57 -0500> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > The east busway has very heavy patronage. I've thought of that. > I've also recognized that a lot of the business on the busway comes > from buses leaving it at exits and serving neighborhoods and I wonder > if converting it to rail would cause you to loose that business if > people were forced to transfer ... or would the confort of a rail car > overcome the dislike for a transfer???????> > On Dec 18, 2008, at 4:28 PM, John Swindler wrote:> > >> > From northside, following East St. expressway corridor towards > > Cranberry is an option. Another direction might be westward > > towards the Airport busway. A third might be conversion of East > > Busway to light rail.> >> > At some point the so called Spine Line should again be considered > > as it would connect the two primary traffic generators in the > > Pittsburgh area.> >> > Far too often, Pittsburgh politicians are too busy being Pittsburgh > > politicians.> >> > John> >> >> >> From: mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> To: pittsburgh- > >> railways at dementia.org> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pen's get new luxury > >> hotel> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:15:35 +0000> > >  Fred - you > >> keep saying the City of Pittsburgh has 300,000 people, which is > >> true, however> Allegheny County has over a 1,200,000, plus the 5 > >> county metro area  has nearly 2.5 million,  checked available > >> office space in downtown Pittsburgh and the city has one of the > >> highest occupancy rates in the country, so there are alot of > >> people commuting to downtown Pittsburgh, many of the Pittsburgh > >> people have moved out of the area, plus alot have moved to > >> counties outside of Allegheny, but many still work in Pittsburgh. > >> Most of the times I rode the T the cars were full, what would stop > >>  people from riding into downtown from the North Hills or East > >> side communities?  With Mr. Obama promoting all these new jobs> > >> in contstructing highways etc, someone needs to tell him, RAILS > >> are our future!   Friends from Chevy C!> > hase MD, and Arlington VA recently visited Pittsburgh for the > > first time and were impressed with what> they found.   > --> > > From: Jerry "Matt" Matsick> > AGING: Eventually you will reach a > > point when you > stop lying about your age and start Bragging > > > about it. >  -------------- Original message from Phillip Clark > > Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>: --------------> > > > ----- Original > > Message ----> > > > > From: Schneider Fred > > > To: pittsburgh- > > railways at dementia.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 > > 6:30:57 PM> > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pen's get new luxury hotel> > > > > > > > Imagined tax revenues is the answer.> > > > $$$$$> > > > $$$$$ > > $$> > > > $$$$$$> > > > $$$$$$$$$> > > > It is the dollar that > > rules isn't it.> > > > > > > > Portland is an enigma to me ... the > > light rail fits in with the > > > culture ... it fits there like it > > fits in Europe but doesn't fit in > > > Memphis ... it fits because > > the mentality of the people there accept > > > urban life. ..... > > The Orego!> > nians are > > > very jealous about their culture and keeping out > > the r> > iff raff. > > > > Better look again Mr.Schneider. Number of > > Homeless on the> > streets of Portland makes Los Angeles look like > > Paradise on earth.> > All over downtown Portland. Appears > > disproportionate to> > the extreme doesn't it.> > > > Yes, rail > > works very well in Portland, even the 'so-called streetcar.'> > > > > > > > > > Phil> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > _________________________________________________________________> > Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills.> > http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail? > > ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008> >> > > 
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