[PRCo] Re: Johnstown party bus

[Schneider Fred]

I'll wager something called "municipal inertia."

On Dec 19, 2008, at 8:50 AM, Schneider Fred wrote:

> Probably because of the federal law that prohibits our public
> agencies from competing with private corporations in charters and a
> lack of imagination.   But I could see that satellite agency in San
> Francisco being the group, working in conjunction with Muni, that
> could do it.
> Toronto also has enough rail left to make it practical but they too,
> according to all observations, have a mindset against such things.
>
> And I don't think I would want to try it on the remaining routes in
> West Philadelphia.
>
> On Dec 19, 2008, at 8:39 AM, bbente at bellsouth.net wrote:
>
>> The concept of a party tram seems to be popular everywhere but in
>> the US.  I have seen them in Christchurch, NZ and this spring in
>> Goteborg and Norrkoping, Sweden and Trondheim, Norway. No doubt
>> there are many more in Europe.  All these cars had special "party"
>> interiors with seating and tables arranged for partying.  The only
>> US operation that is attempting to try it is McKinney Av. trolley
>> in Dallas, which has been trying for years to complete conversion
>> of an old tram into a dinner tram. San Francisco would seem to be
>> an ideal place to introduce one--I wonder why no one has attempted  
>> it?
>> -------------- Original message from Schneider Fred
>> <fwschneider at comcast.net>: --------------
>>
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>>> Not bad at all for an evening's entertainment. The beer tram in
>>> Japan --- 3600 yen at today's rate of exchange is $40.36 for
>>> something resembling dinner, drinks and two hours of trolley riding.
>>> I can imagine Derrick wanting to go there to try out the beer.
>>>
>>> I wish there was someone who could translate the Japanese
>> characters.
>>>
>>> Thanks Bill for forwarding.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 18, 2008, at 7:16 PM, Bill Robb wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are places with beer trolleys. But not the US. Puritans and
>>>> conservative Republicans (and their lawyers) are in charge.
>>>> http://www.seekjapan.jp/article/1722/Beer+Trams+Running+in+Hot
>> +Summer
>>>>
>>>> Japanese trams with bench seats are laid out just perfect for a
>>>> portable table down the center of the streetcar.
>>>>
>>>> http://jaritetu.exblog.jp/7719637/ Japanese text with numerous
>>>> photos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> Dennis F. Cramer wrote
>>>>
>>>> Just saw a spot on WJAC, channel 6 that a local guy has
>> purchased 2
>>>> busses and rents them for parties, Altoona Curve games, weddings,
>>>> etc and is making a killing since Cambria Transit is not permitted
>>>> to rent out theirs. Since I am in the wedding business, I do hear
>>>> people complain about restrictions on renting publicly funded
>>>> busses. Imagine being able to rent a PAT bus or the "T". We used
>>>> to be able to do it. I guess the attorneys gave themselves more
>> work.
>>>> http://guides.limores.net/Party_Bus_Johnstown_PA-r852770-
>>>> Johnstown_PA.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dennis F. Cramer
>>>> Trombone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> From: Schneider Fred <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>> Date: December 18, 2008 10:22:52 PM EST
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Re: Johnstown party bus
>>
>>
>> Not bad at all for an evening's entertainment.   The beer tram in
>> Japan --- 3600 yen at today's rate of exchange is $40.36 for
>> something resembling dinner, drinks and two hours of trolley riding.
>> I can imagine Derrick wanting to go there to try out the beer.
>>
>> I wish there was someone who could translate the Japanese characters.
>>
>> Thanks Bill for forwarding.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2008, at 7:16 PM, Bill Robb wrote:
>>
>>> There are places with beer trolleys.  But not the US.  Puritans
>>> and conservative Republicans (and their lawyers) are in charge.
>>> http://www.seekjapan.jp/article/1722/Beer+Trams+Running+in+Hot 
>>> +Summer
>>>
>>> Japanese trams with bench seats are laid out just perfect for a
>>> portable table down the center of the streetcar.
>>>
>>> http://jaritetu.exblog.jp/7719637/    Japanese text with numerous
>>> photos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> Dennis F. Cramer wrote
>>>
>>> Just saw a spot on WJAC, channel 6 that a local guy has purchased
>>> 2 busses and rents them for parties, Altoona Curve games,
>>> weddings, etc and is making a killing since Cambria Transit is not
>>> permitted to rent out theirs.  Since I am in the wedding business,
>>> I do hear people complain about restrictions on renting publicly
>>> funded busses.  Imagine being able to rent a PAT bus or the "T".
>>> We used to be able to do it.  I guess the attorneys gave
>>> themselves more work.
>>> http://guides.limores.net/Party_Bus_Johnstown_PA-r852770-
>>> Johnstown_PA.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis F. Cramer
>>>       Trombone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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