[PRCo] Re: (No

Ken & Tracie ktjosephson at embarqmail.com
Wed Feb 6 14:22:15 EST 2008


Yeah...I remember how the sound of the steel wheels in the Green Line subway 
gave the impression the cars were traveling at 50 mph-plus, even though 
their top speed was 40 mph or so.

The practical alternative would be to extend the rapid transit Red Line, but 
the railfan in me wants to see the "PCC-Ds" remain in service.

K.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:32 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: (No 
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:22:15 -0800


> No kidding.   But consider the alternative.
>
> On Feb 6, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Ken & Tracie wrote:
>
>> 25 mph? I guess we can't call the car line the "Mattapan-Ashmont
>> High Speed
>> Trolley Line" anymore, either....
>>
>> K.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:20 AM
>> Subject: [PRCo]
>>
>>
>>> The original message was posted by Bob Vogel to Philly Traction at
>>> yahoogroups and shows pictures he took of the reopened Mattapan-
>>> Ashmont service in Boston on Monday.   I find it amazing that those
>>> PCC cars are still soldiering on 65 years after they were built but
>>> the Boeing Vertol cars built in the 1980s have long since been
>>> retired.    Are these really PCC cars?   Russ Jackson quipped that
>>> they were PCC-D for degraded.  They no longer meet the original
>>> performance specification ... they only are capable of about 25 miles
>>> per hour.  As I recall they do not use field weakening today after
>>> all resistance is cut out.   And they have solid steel wheels instead
>>> of resilient wheels because of an alleged inability to maintain the
>>> shunts around the rubber wheel sandwiches which were needed not only
>>> to ground the car 's electrical system but more importantly for
>>> signal protection.   So Fred the Third would not call them PCCs.
>>> He would be more likely to consider a car that was more advanced than
>>> a PCC a PCC but certainly not one that had stepped backward into the
>>> shadows.
>>>
>>> photographed on Monday
>>> Ashmont station
>>> http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1040070
>>>
>>> Mattapan terminal
>>> http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1040196
>>> http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1040197
>>> http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1040198
>>> http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1040199
>>>
>>> interior
>>> http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1040200
>>>
>>> Ashmont loop
>>> http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1040071
>>> http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1040072
>>> http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1040073
>>>
>>>
>>> __._,_.___
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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