[PRCo] Re: Ancient trolley cars

[John Swindler]

After about 15 years it's time for a rebuilding.  That hasn't changed much in past 100 years.  
 
John
 
 
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Ancient trolley cars> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:17:42 -0400> > This is an open letter to Rich Allman and Ed Lybarger ...> > I recently became aware that the Philly Kawasaki or K-cars (the 9000s > and 100s on Red Arrow) have lasted in service longer than any PCC > cars in Pittsburgh except for perhaps the 1700s.> > Now let's address the 1700s... What day in 1948 or 1949 did the > first one enter revenue service, Ed? And what day in 1999 did the > last one go out of service? Did 1700 get a full 50 years of > service? Did any car get 50 years?> > Now the 1600s. Seems to be that they were out of service about > 1972? Correct? That is about 27 years? Aside from the 1700, > they lasted longer than any other Pittsburgh PCC cars.> > Rich: What month did 9000 go into public service in Philadelphia in > 1980? Has it passed the 28 year mark yet? Is it in service? > When did the last car go into service?> > One thing is certain, it is older than any PCC that ever ran on the > streets in Washington, Baltimore, Dallas, Los Angeles, Detroit, > Montreal, Chicago, Vancouver, Minneapolis, St.Louis, San Diego, > Birmingham, Cincinnati, Kansas City.> > The only PCCs that I can think of that have run longer than a K-car > are those many times rebuilt war-time cars in Boston (65 years old > this year), a couple of all-electrics in Toronto in excursion > service, the F line fleet in San Francisco that is pushing 60 years > old, and the El Paso cars that got up to about 38 years and the > Pittsburgh Westinghouse 1700s that got to 50 years and a bunch of > crap cars that SEPTA was running after the GOH program. I am not > counting the current cars on Girard because they do not have PCC > trucks and the electrical components are all new and most of the body > parts are all new ... I count them as "budget new cars." > 
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