[PRCo] Re: 1976

[Bill Robb]

Could there have been a large scale service cut on bus routes in LA that would have reduced the service level? Reduced service levels mean fewer riders,even if the buses are at capacity.  Remember the cuts in Pittsburgh last year?


Bill Robb


Interesting, thanks, Fred.  Didn't see this chart on prior visits to their website.

So it looks like the Pasadena light rail line has almost the same ridership as the Orange busway (bus rapid transit) in the San Franando Valley.  

As for Green Line, it is not people going to LAX.  It is used as a connector between north-south bus lines.

The bus ridership might also be an indicator of the California job market.    

John

> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 1976> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:22:06 -0400> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > Will this do? It comes from their own web site. Not sure why the > Green Line is down unless the aviation factories and other industries > near Redondo and El Segundo are also having a lot of people on > layoffs. Could also be that a good number of airlines have cut back > on service to LAX and that means fewer baggage handlers and counter > personnel at the airport who were using the line. Remember, it > isn't travelers who generally use airport mass transit but it's the > people who work at the airports who use it.> > But I have no clue at all why the bus service has collapsed so much > in opposition to the national trend. Must be something in the water.> > As much as I don't like Wendell Cox, you will find he has a web site > also claiming that LACMTA doesn't know how to count and he presents > preliminary, adjusted
 and final figures sh!
owing a difference of > 300%. It may be that they have simply become the INEPTA of the > west? We do know that they aroused a fire storm of monumental > proportions when they proposed installing fare gates or turnstiles in > the subway because of one of the highest fare evasion rates in the > industry. If you read some of the newspaper accounts, you would have > gotten the feeling that the public believed it was their right to be > trusted even if they had no intention of paying a fare. Perhaps we > are comparing riders in one year with cash customers in another????> > But then the problems with fare evasion are not restricted to the > USA. I remember coming to the conclusion that it must have been a > national sport in Holland. I must have been correct because a few > years later the Dutch dropped the policy of the honor system and went > back to paying fares to the drivers and motormen. I suspect the most > honest numbers might have come from Grenoble,
 France, where I wat!
ched > five or six uniformed fare officers board an LRV I was riding .
... the > gestapo entered at every door. There was no escaping them. It > wasn't a case of the officer getting on one door and all the unpaid > riders rushing off the other doors. Within a minute or two they had > collared a man without a fare card. But only one. They kept their > people honest by not letting them escape.> > At any rate, here are the Los Angeles numbers you wanted John. I > think they are suspect.> > http://www.metro.net/news_info/ridership_avg.htm> > On Jul 28, 2008, at 9:41 AM, John Swindler wrote:> > >> >> > I'd seen a comment that Pasadena light rail now exceeded Orange > > line busway, but would like to get some good numbers. This would > > not be a popular comparison, if true. Also, time to visit MTA site > > for update on Santa Monica via Air line.> >> >> 
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