[PRCo] Re: Destination Numbers Effective March 1, 1914

[John Swindler]

17 goes over a high bridge across Woods Run.  More commonly known as Reedsdale.
 
Concerning 21, reference is because it didn't go downtown.  
 
The two paired routes were the Bloomfield loop and the Forbes-Shady-Penn loop; sort of an inner loop and an outer loop. Different numbers were to indicate clockwise and counter-clockwise.
 
43 was a short turn on 42; 41 was a short turn on 40; 65 and 66 were short turns on 64; and I'm wondering if 37 was short turn on 36???  Fairhaven was Frederick St. in Overbrook, if memory serves, and both 36 and 37 were shown on a 1917 map as going out what's now the Overbrook line.  35 was a West End route at this time.
 
The numbers were introduced in 1914, but the PRC system went through a period of rationalization of routes within five years.  Shuttle routes were generally omitted from the initial two digit route number system.  And probably didn't all happen on one day in 1914, but this would require further research.
 
Joh
 
 
> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 18:33:59 -0700> From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Destination Numbers Effective March 1, 1914> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > ----- Original Message ----> > From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:35:31 AM> > Subject: [PRCo] Destination Numbers Effective March 1, 1914> > > > Attached are two files that together contain the entire advertisement that> > appeared in the Pittsburgh Post on April 7, 1914 on behalf of Pittsburgh> > Railways Company. It outlines the new destination numbers that went into> > effect April 1, 1914.> > > > I think it's apparent that not all routes reveived destination numbers at> > this time...probably had to do with traffic volumes, or perhaps with hours> > of operations. Someone needs to read the news reports from the first of> > April.> > > > Or perhaps this was all a big April Fool's joke?> > > > Ed> > > > > > > http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/Destination%20Numbers%20Ad%203-7-14%20Top.jpg> > > > > http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/Destination%20Numbers%20Ad%203-7-14%20Bottom.jpg> > These are interesting Mr.Lybarger.> > Where would 17-High Bridge be on the North Side? One tends to associate high bridges with the East End.> > Assume the 21-Nunnery Hill is latter day Fineview. Why the distinction of Allegheny only?> > Do you know why Fair Haven was so noted on the Interurbans? Why would this location be important - then? It has lost its distinction today hasn't it.> > It would also seem that 42-Beechview and 43-Neeld would be the same; what's the difference?> > What would be the significance of the 45-Knoxville 3rd Ave? Short Turn? Downtown routings for various lines obviously changed a number of times and maybe the 44 didn't go to the Union or PRR station at this time. I did see something somewhere that the 50-Carson was at one time routed to PRR didn't I.> > 49-Beltzhoover is clearly indicated yet PCCs carried 46-Brownsville for quite some time and the 46 here is different isn't it.> > The 72 and 92 seemed to be 'paired' as do the the 79 and 91 - very interesting - also shows bidirectional traffic along Penn.> > Also interesting are the 89-Frankstown/22nd-St and 95-Sharpsburg/22nd-St - curious about the needs for this service.> > Phil> > > > > 
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