[PRCo] Re: 3800 Series LOST

[Phillip Clark Campbell]

Mr.Schneider!


This is easily recognized isn't it  --  NO  OOOOPS  about it is there!!.  That still leaves the fact that the predominant equipment on PRC was single end doesn't it.  The high-floor 4000s, 4700s thru 5500s, 3750s, 3700s, 3800s, 3600s all single end.  Inherited equipment was hodge podge and with the introduction of the low-floor it became the standard equipment, predominantly single end.  This made it very easy for the introduction of PCCs.  A backup controller doesn't change the operating configuration does it.


Phil



----- Original Message ----
> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 3:44:37 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 3800 Series LOST
> 
> OOOOPS!   Phil, all of the early low-floor production cars were  
> double end.   Note the word production.
> The first four cars were converted trailers.   They were initially  
> single-end but I think they evolved with time into double end cars.    
> The only one that last any length of time was 4423 which became an  
> instruction car and then became a play room for Bob Brown and company  
> in the old Pittsburgh Chapter of the National Railway Historical  
> Society.   Most of the NRHS members were drafted during the war and  
> the car shell became a lovely candidate for a war time metal scrap  
> drive.   After the war most of those guys created the Pittsburgh  
> Electric Railway Club.   I think many years later there was a  
> Pittsburgh NRHS Chapter again but not the same guys.   And there  
> really isn't any one I can ask.   Note that there are three founding  
> members of PERC still around but all the old guys that were in the  
> prewar NRHS group are pushing up daisies.
> 
> Then came the 4200s and 4300s. the double end motor cars came between  
> 1914 and 1917.   There were also a dozen second hand double-end cars  
> from Beaver Valley Traction Company that PRC acquired in the 1920s  
> and numbered 4400-4411; they were built in 1917 as a tag onto the 4350s.
> 
> The single end cars were all built starting in 1917 and continuing  
> into 1927.
> 
> The exception to that rule is that 3556 was the prototype for the  
> 3700-3714 interurbans.
> 
> The 3750s were equivalent to the multiple unit equipped 5000s, 5100s  
> and 5200s except that they were built for interurban service.  When  
> new they had toilets.   They also had a higher gear ratio between  
> traction motor pinions and the bull gears on the axles allowing for  
> higher speeds but of course slower acceleration.   When the company  
> selectively speeded up certain cars of the 4700-5549 group, I think  
> they also did all the 3750s.   Ultimately ten of the 4350s were done,  
> probably for the 99 Glassport line and our 4398 is one of the few  
> high speed double end cars.
> 
> One thing I noticed when the truck was apart a few weeks ago is that  
> it has helical drive gears.   Now that wasn't something that the car  
> got when it was new.   I suspect the helical gears were installed as  
> part of the rebuilding when the cars were speeded up to make them a  
> little less noisy.   That was done in the early 1930s
> 
> I put a roster on line perhaps five years ago and I'm putting it on  
> again.   But you need Microsoft Word to open it.
> 
> To make life easier for those who do not have Word, i.e. those who  
> have the home MS Works edition or have Word Perfect, I resaved it as  
> a text file.   It isn't formatted into pages ... just a bloody run on  
> document, but you will be able to open it and read it.
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