[PRCo] Re: SE DE

[Phillip Clark Campbell]

Specifics aren't needed are they  --  4400s DE were purchased as well - folder is stored again so don't have dates available - small number.

Why?       Why indeed!       More efficient operation with sE?


Phil



----- Original Message ----
> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org; Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:04:50 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SE DE
> 
> All except trippers went to Wilmerding.
> 
> The 4700s were 1917 and delivered in 1918.   You forgot the 4420s.
> 
> But you are still not addressing why?
> 
> On May 14, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> >
> > Another way to look at this is dates of equipment purchases isn't it.
> >
> > 4000s & 4100s  --  SE High Floor  --  1910--1911
> >
> > 4200--4399  --  DE low floor  1914--1917
> >
> > 4700s thru 5500s -- SE low floor  --  1916--1926
> >
> > Seems that SE was the vehicle of choice by 1920, even earlier.
> >
> > DE equipment was used as needed but loops / wyes were constructed  
> > on DE routes over time.       As DE equipment aged and loops / wyes  
> > built the DE equipment was phased out.
> >
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Phillip Clark Campbell 
> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 12:17:36 PM
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SE DE
> >>
> >> To the List:   In 1928 PRC made its last purchase of equipment  
> >> before the PCCs,
> >> the 15 St.Louis SE Interurbans.  Equipment purchases  'by PRC'  
> >> were 72% SE;
> >> inherited equipment made up bulk of DE cars.  It would seem that  
> >> PRC made up its
> >> mind well before 1929 since by 1925 they had purchased  
> >> predominantly SE cars.
> >>
> >> Did all 87-Ardmore trips go to Wilmerding or did some turn in  
> >> E.Pgh on city
> >> street loops?  Yes - given that DE routes existed, 62 one of them  
> >> along with 99,
> >> 12,  (1,4,5 - not sure how/when these got loops,)  29, 38A,  
> >> Washington & Donora
> >> locals, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Fred Schneider
> >>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:47:48 PM
> >>> Subject: [PRCo]
> >>>
> >> ----------------
> >>> I think it just shows that by 1929 they had made the decision that
> >>> single-end was better where it was possible to use them ... cost  
> >>> less
> >>> to maintain and they seated about 13 more people in a 45' body.
> >>>
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