[PRCo] Re: Gaps in Numbering

[Fred Schneider]

There is a note in the route cards about 3700s on 87 Ardmore.   I  
don't know whether to take it as gospel or an error.   If anythig it  
might be 3750s.

On May 14, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:

> The 3750s were largely identical to all the other low-floor cars,  
> though
> heavier.  The 3700s were still bigger and heavier.  PRCo attempted  
> to foist
> off city cars on the unsuspecting interurban passengers and it  
> backfired.
> Complaints about ride quality (in a time when complaints were actually
> heard) led to the 3800s.
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> But some of the 3750s ran short-turn rush-hour trippers on the  
> interurbans
> into the late '40s or early '50s anyway.  They also weren't  
> confined to
> Charleroi when new, according to news accounts of their arrival.
>
> I'll be off the air for a couple days here.
>
> Ed
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of  
> Phillip
> Clark Campbell
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:18 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Gaps in Numbering
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> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:03:54 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: MU service on Frankstown
>>
>>
>> ....... By the way, you never asked the question of why there were
>> no 5300s??   It might be the same answer as to why there were no  
>> volume
>> purchases of 4400s, 4500s and 4600s.  (the low 4400s that did exist
>> were an
>> afterthought)  Or am I the firt to notice this???
>> John
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> Mr. Swindler!
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> There are a number of gaps in the numbering aren't there.  I  
> remember seeing
> something about this in the archives but I forget the details now  
> don't I.
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> 3600s
> 3700s
> 3750s
> 3800s
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> Then jump to
> 4000s - SE
> 4100s - SE
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> 4200s DE thru
> 4400s  DE
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> then gap to
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> 4700s SE thru
> 5500s SE
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> One could guess that 3600 thru 3999 were reserved for Interurbans  
> couldn't
> one.
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> It would seem that the intention of the heavy high floors was for  
> trailer
> pulling thus SE equipment was necessary.  Then the numbering  
> continues with
> DE equipment, gap, then back to SE equipment doesn't it.
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> 3700s were presumably built from what was learned with the 3556  
> experiment.
> While the 3750s were otherwise identical to all the city low floor  
> cars they
> were purchased for Charleroi service according to Mr.Baxter weren't  
> they and
> they are kissing cousins to the 3700s so are numbered in this  
> block.  Thus
> the listing here for 3750s rather than numbering consistent with other
> low-floors.  The PCCs were so distinctly different from other  
> equipment that
> it could be guessed that Interurbans and City cars  were numbered  
> with the
> PCCs but could otherwise have been something like this:  1601s for
> Interurban usage as 3900s and 1700--1724 as 3950s!!!
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> Phil
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