[PRCo] Re: Allegheny County's new Transit Development Plan

[Schneider Fred]

Very interesting ... in some respects one would think there is a  
railfan hinding in the staff ... 8 Perrysville, 39 Brookline, 78  
Oakmont (gone since the earth was cooling), 40 Mt. Washington, 44  
Knoxville.
I guess I have two thoughts.   The positive one is its good to quite  
confusing the riders with 11A, 11B, 11C, 11D, 11E ... °.

The negative is do we really have to mess with what has been in place  
since 1964 ... it's been there for 45 years now.   This is as bad as  
PAT screwing with what Pittsburgh Railways had in place for almost as  
long.   By now the public has no recollection of 8 PERRYSVILLE but  
they do understand 11D PERRYSVILLE AVENUE.

The other thing very obvious to me is that the routes of yore are not  
the routes of today.   If you pull out a contemporary transit guide  
and compare it to a 1955 Pittsburgh Railways map, where we run to  
today isn't where we ran to back then.   The demand today isn't the  
same as it was then.   Almost a half a century has elapsed and the  
PAT service area has lost close to a million people.

I would really like to see comparisons in peak hour riding past the  
maximum load point in 1945, 1960 and 2009 for Perrysville,  
Frankstown, Ellsworth, Lincoln, Butler Street, Millvale, routes 18,  
19 and 20 which is all one route today, and the 2nd Avenue lines.




On Aug 28, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Barry, Matthew R wrote:

> I noticed that this a.m.
>
> "3 Millvale" is making a comeback.   As is "75 Wilkinsburg  
> (Ellsworth Ave)"   and "8 Perrysville," among others.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org  
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of  
> Derrick Brashear
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:04 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Allegheny County's new Transit Development Plan
>
> It was announced today. Included in the plan? A move for basic (non
> express, "BRT", etc) routes back to a PRCo style numbering system.
>
> More details here.
> http://tdp.portauthority.org/paac/
>
> -- 
> Derrick
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