[PRCo] Re: Allegheny County's new Transit Development Plan

[Herb Brannon]

Cars still in PRCo paint (non-rehabbed cars) had destination signs reading
46-Brownsville when I was operating them. Also, PATransit renumbered the
original 47-Carrick via Tunnel to 53-Carrick when the portion of Route 53,
from 2nd Avenue to Brownsville Rd/Arlington, was abandoned. I have always
seen the Glassport routes as 98-Glassport (Pirl St Loop) and 99-Glassport
(Evans Avenue). When I worked out of East Liberty Division (bus) many of the
former streetcar routes still used the PRCo numbers, such as 71/73/75/76,
82/87/88. The Forbes Avenue routes had been numbered into the 61-series
(A/B/C) and the old PRCo Rt 60 had been changed to 64A along with the
85-Bedford which became 81C-Bedford. I asked someone in the station
management one time why some were changed and some were not, he told me that
people were becoming confused (nothing new) and a majority of customers
complained that no more routes should be renumbered. They suspended the
renumbering until the mid 1980s.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Schneider Fred <fwschneider at comcast.net>wrote:

> They did ... the attempted to integrate about 30 independent bus
> companies and Pittsburgh Railways into one system.    It still
> roughly follows the same logic of route numbers rotating around the
> city.
>
> Pittsburgh Railways was never consistent.   They reused route
> numbers.    The shuttles, for example, never had numbers until the
> abandoned enough trunk lines to release enough numbers so that they
> could be used a second time on the shuttles.    Route 52 was
> previously 49 Beltzhoover but Beltzhoover went out either via tunnel
> or via Arlington Avenue at different times.   If my memory is working
> (and I'm too lazy to plug this monitor into the other computer to
> check factoids), it might have also be route 46 at one time.
> Carrick via tunnel was variously 47 or 53.   Glassport was 98 or 99
> depending on which year you looked at it.
>
> fws
>
> On Aug 28, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:
>
> > Mr.Brashear;
> >
> > These are most interesting;  they should change the numbers:
> >
> > 42C Castle Shannon via Beechview Red Line - 42/38A
> >
> >
> > 47L Library via Overbrook Blue Line/Library - Library
> > 47S South Hills Village via Overbrook Blue Line/
> > South Hills Village - Drake
> >
> > 52 Allentown Brown Line - 49
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> > Phil
> > Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
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> > ________________________________
> > From: Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com>
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:03:48 PM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Allegheny County's new Transit Development Plan
> >
> > It was announced today. Included in the plan? A move for basic (non
> > express, "BRT", etc) routes back to a PRCo style numbering system.
> >
> > More details here.
> > http://tdp.portauthority.org/paac/
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> > Derrick
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-- 
Herb Brannon
On America's North Coast