[PRCo] Re: Allegheny County's new Transit Development Plan

John Bromley johnfbromley at rogers.com
Fri Aug 28 23:30:57 EDT 2009


That was 1652 - lotsa pix available.


> From: Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> Reply-To: Pittsburgh Railways Group <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:27:54 -0400
> To: Pittsburgh Railways Group <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Allegheny County's new Transit Development Plan
> 
> I have an East End sign; the only strange aspect is 88-Frankstown Short.
> Buses did not have this aspect. These trips turned right onto Homewood
> Avenue from Frankstown, then left on Felica Way (behind Homewood Car
> House/Shops) to Braddock, left Braddock, left Frankstown and back to the
> city. I did operate, several times, an old PRCo painted 1600 series car
> (number forgotten) which had "Gotham City via Batcave" on the front sign. I
> would use that sign when going back to SHJct. People did notice it, too.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell
> <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
>> From: Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:32:01 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Allegheny County's new Transit Development Plan
>> 
>> Cars still in PRCo paint (non-rehabbed cars) had destination
>> signs reading 46-Brownsville when I was operating them.
>> Also, PATransit renumbered the original 47-Carrick via Tunnel
>> to 53-Carrick when the portion of Route 53, from 2nd Avenue
>> to Brownsville Rd/Arlington, was abandoned. I have always seen
>> the Glassport routes as 98-Glassport (Pirl St Loop) and
>> 99-Glassport (Evans Avenue). When I worked out of
>> East Liberty Division (bus) many of the former streetcar routes
>> still used the PRCo numbers, such as 71/73/75/76, 82/87/88.
>> The Forbes Avenue routes had been numbered into the
>> 61-series (A/B/C) and the old PRCo Rt 60 had been changed to
>> 64A along with the 85-Bedford which became 81C-Bedford.
>> I asked someone in the station management one time why some
>> were changed and some were not, he told me that people
>> were becoming confused (nothing new) and a majority of
>> customers complained that no more routes should be
>> renumbered. They suspended the renumbering until
>> the mid 1980s.
>> 
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>> Mr.Brannon;
>> 
>> 
>> These are good.  I believe it was in the 1940s when 46 Brownsville was
>> changed to 49 Beltzhoover;  whether or not this involved a route change
>> is unknown to me.
>> 
>> I also caught the distinction between 98 and 99.
>> 
>> I comprehend Pat changing 47 to 53 through the tunnel when that
>> was the primary i.e. only service on the line.  This does make sense
>> doesn't it.
>> 
>> Do you have any of the rollsigns with 46 or other 'unusual' destinations.
>> 
>> 
>>  Phil
>> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
>> 
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> -- 
> Herb Brannon
> On America's North Coast
> 
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