[PRCo] Re: PRC 313A-317-1202 Franchise Car

Schneider Fred fwschneider at comcast.net
Tue Feb 3 17:09:18 EST 2009


And you are buying the roof for it?   Remember it costs $50,000 just  
to put a roof over a trolley these days.

On Feb 3, 2009, at 4:10 PM, John Swindler wrote:

>
>
> Maybe one of them could be placed indoors next to an interurban car  
> (body).  Cut down on deterioration and repair costs.
>> From: fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRC  
>> 313A-317-1202 Franchise Car> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:01:58 -0500>  
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > As it is we're a home for  
>> wayward shelters.> > On Feb 3, 2009, at 3:56 PM, John Swindler  
>> wrote:> > >> >> > I thought Linden Grove was a former P&CS site,  
>> but can't recall > > where this "impression" came from. But you  
>> are right - that > > article raises more questions to  
>> investigate.> >> > But there was a small wooden structure by the  
>> tracks both at Grove > > Rd. and Frederick St. (Glenbury) that  
>> were former P&CS structures. > > This was a comment from Baxter on  
>> a long-ago fantrip. Pity PTM > > didn't save one, but then again,  
>> every possession is also a liability.> >> > John> >> >> >> From:  
>> fwschneider at comcast.net> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRC > >>  
>> 313A-317-1202 Franchise Car> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:36:12 -0500>  
>> > >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> > Finally had a chance  
>> to > >> read this document over an India!
>  n lunch > today. At the time the > >> coke "battery" existed, the  
> P&CS only ran > 1.5 miles from > >> somewhere to somewhere. It  
> could be no farther south > than > >> McKinley Park. However, if we  
> assume the tunnel and the long > > >> curve were part of it, that  
> shortens the south end to just about > > >> where the Liberty Tubes  
> come out today and makes more sense.> > > >> That is a great link  
> to the Pittsburgh and Castle Shannon. The > >> rest > of you ought  
> to read it. Amazing that the railroad had > >> options on > about  
> 1.89 square miles of land which became the > >> towns of Overbook >  
> and Castle Shannon. I wish John Swindler would > >> read it and  
> tell me > if Linden Grove under a former name was one > >> of those  
> sites that P&CS > owned.> > Now I need to go to the list > >> of  
> Civil War batteries.> > > On Jan 3!> > 0, 2009, at 11:23 PM,  
> Derrick J Brashear wrote:> > > On Fri, 30 > > Jan 2009, Schneider  
> Fred wrote:> >> >> I've been searching old maps > > and other on-l!
>  ine sources for several> >> hours without success. > > Perhaps one of
> you has the answer to this> >> question:> >>> >> Two > > locations  
> are involved with the 313A-317-1202 franchise car that> > > >> make  
> no sense at all to me:> >>> >> One is called "Battery." > > This  
> place called Battery was six minutes> >> from the office at > >  
> South Hills Tunnel by some route. I have no idea> >> what a battery  
> > > is. I've looked on maps for batteries of coke ovens> >> and  
> storage > > batteries. I've looked at the 1884 industrial map of>  
> >> > > Pittsburgh. Nothing is popping out.> >> > Pittsburgh &  
> Castle > > Shannon Railroad had 8 coke ovens. Is that a > > battery? 
> > > Is > > that "the" battery? I dunno.> >> > http://memory.loc.gov/ 
> pnp/ > > habshaer/pa/pa3400/pa3483/data/pa3483.pdf> >> > I don't  
> know (yet) > > where they were. One presumes "along the Overbrook>  
> > line"> >> >> > > The other plac!> > e is 3rd St. and Washington  
> Road. Well, guess what,> >> there was > > no i> > ntersection of  
> 3rd Street and Washington Road.> >> > *Old* Hopkins > > shows Cars!
>  on St *west* of Smithfield as "Washington> > Turnpike".> > > >> >  
> Washington Avenue (Warrington) on Sanborns of 1893; No sign of > >  
> a paper> > street down from Climax.> >> >> >> >  
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