[PRCo] Re: Anybody Here Know Anything About This?

Joshua Dunfield joshua.dunfield at gmail.com
Wed Feb 25 19:48:57 EST 2009


2009/2/25 Schneider Fred <fwschneider at comcast.net>:
> Seattle?   Vancouver?   That may be both volume issues and an
> environmentally conscious city government.   Philadelphia running TCs
> there strikes me as lunacy but when you don't know how many people
> are on the vehicle, what does it matter.

Current weekday headways on the 66 are 3 minutes peak, 7 minutes
mid-day.  Hard to believe that SEPTA, which hasn't exactly been in
love with trolleybuses, would run it that often without decent
ridership.  But I haven't ridden that line; the last trolleybus I rode
in Philly was the 79 (probably in 2002), which has since been
dieselized.

> And Dayton?   How can it be economically sound in a city of 155,000
> people that lost 100,000 residents in the last 40 years?   Well, if
> you believe GDRTA's numbers, the diesel buses are are taking in 12
> cents per mile in fares and costing 95 cents a mile.   The trolleys
> are taking in 82 cents a mile and costing 1.01 a mile to run.    But
> there is no route in the system running more often than every 15 to
> 20 minutes and most are 20 to 30 and worse.   By thought is that the
> routes the trolleys are on would still take in 82 cents a mile but
> would only cost 95 cents if you didn't have the trackless overhead.

Unless you can build a diesel bus that sounds and performs like a
trolleybus, how can you assume they'd still take in 82 cents a mile?

-j.




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