[PRCo] Re: West Penn Railways 1950 on YouTube

[Schneider Fred]

I have hand brake cars at the Baltimore Streetcar Museum for the last  
21 years.  If your hand slips off that handle and your face is in the  
wrong position, it hurts.

I think Ed and I might have heard of a man on West Penn who got his  
chin severely banged up when a gooseneck brake slammed him while  
seated.     Perhaps it was the younger Cupp in Uniontown that told us  
the story?

fws



On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:

> You couldn't sit and safely operate the brakes.  You sat on the  
> longer lines
> between stops!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of  
> Barry,
> Matthew R
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:29 PM
> To: 'pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org'
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: West Penn Railways 1950 on YouTube
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> Thank you.  I missed the 2 weeks ago email, sorry.
>
> But, I hope we start to see more of these.  Very interesting.    
> Looks like
> the motormen stood most of the time on these rides!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
> Schneider Fred
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:25 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: West Penn Railways 1950 on YouTube
>
> At the risk of being sarcastic son-of-a-bitch ... same line it was
> two weeks ago when the last person asked.    Irwin to Greensburg.
> The street scene at the very end is Otterman Street in Greensburg.
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> Those cars (286-297) were built for service in McKeesport.   When
> that division was abandoned, they were advertised for sale.  That is a
> pretty clear indication that West Penn didn't plan to stay in
> business for ever.   Not finding a buyer, the elected instead to
> scrap the wooden Stepenson cars that were 20 years older, and take the
> trucks from under those cars and place them under the newer
> 280s.   The Stephensons had Brill trucks like the 700s.   The 280s
> originally had arch bar trucks like the Pittsburgh low-floor cars,  
> much more
> suited for city streets.
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> Not all of the cars were converted.   Ed knows which ones were not.
> I think 294 and 295 were not.   Basically, those that were not were
> either spares in Greensburg or worked in Connellsville on the local
> line to South Connellsville.   The rebuilt ones worked the Greensburg
> - Irwin - Trafford line.
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> Trafford?   Yes, briefly.   Maybe a year from the time they were
> rebuilt until the line was abandoned from Larimer to Trafford.
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> On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Barry, Matthew R wrote:
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>> This is a West Penn Railways color video, quite good for 1950.
>> I'm just not sure which West Penn line this is?
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIGHcHeZwrw&feature=related
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>> Matt
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