[PRCo] Re: Donora Wye

[Schneider Fred]

Pittsburgh Railways route cards claim the service to Donora from  
Pittsburgh ended March 22, 1925, a month later than you claim in this  
e-mail.

When John Baxter did that article for Electric Railroads (ERA) he  
apparently missed some of the route cards.   You need to look at the  
cards for routes 1101, 1102, 1104 and 1106 to get the entire picture  
of the Pittsburgh - Charleroi line.   Service from Allenport to  
Lucyville (later named Roscoe) opened not later than December 19,  
1906 and on June 20, 1910 route 1101 was abandoned and 1106  
(Pittsburgh -Charleroi) was extended over that line.  John missed the  
card for 1101.

When I get the hole mess done (and after I can find someone at PTM  
who wants to spend six months editing it) I can put it on a CD.

On Jan 2, 2009, at 6:59 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:

> Mr.Swindler;
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> According to 'Electric Railroads' alternating through service
> to Pittsburgh from either Charleroi / Roscoe or Donora started
> on Nov-1-1920 and ceased on Feb-22-1925.
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> It also states the line was completed to Roscoe Jun-20-1910
> and Oct-10-1903 operation to the SH-jct was possible.  On
> Dec-1-1904 Charleroi cars used the 42-line and the tunnel
> to a terminal on 3rd-Wood.  Then in 1905 the terminal was
> moved to the PRR or Union station.
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> Phil
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> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 1:16:58 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Donora Wye
>>
>>
>> This wye probably goes back to the very early days.  The  
>> Monongahlea Valley
>> Republician mentioned that the initial service to Pittsburgh  
>> alternated between
>> Donora and Charleroi.  Vague recollection that Ed L. provided a  
>> date when Donora
>> was changed to a shuttle.  Probably simplified operations quite a  
>> bit.
>>
>> John
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>>> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:04:28 -0800> From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com>  
>>> Subject: [PRCo]
>> Re: Donora Wye> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org> >  
>> Mr.Rockwell;> > > Thank
>> you for these photos. In relation to the first photo> I assume the  
>> wye of the
>> second is to the right of the> boarded up freight building. It  
>> appears that
>> apartments> were still in use when the photo was taken; do you  
>> know> what is
>> planned for the building? How large is it? What 'did'> occupy the  
>> first floor?>
>>> It is 'somewhat' unusual to see a pure wye formation which> this  
>>> is; the point
>> and mate are curved in both directions> aren't they. In this case  
>> both legs come
>> from the same> tangent at presumably the same radius thus the pure  
>> wye.> The
>> Dormont wye track components were made up> of 2-left and one-right  
>> point and
>> mate pairs weren't they.> Leaving the outbound main is a left;  
>> backing from the
>> wye> is a left; backing thru the point onto the inbound main is> a  
>> right. Since
>> each leg of the wye comes from a > differe!
>> nt tangent and with both radii being equal or> nearly the same,  
>> the track
>> entering the wye leg> has a stretch of tangent thru the point  
>> nearly equal to>
>> the track centers doesn't it.> > There were a couple wyes in the  
>> South Hills
>> yards in> very tight locations weren't there. These could  
>> possibly> be pure wye
>> formations as well. Otherwise, one would> be hard pressed to find wye
>> point-mates elsewhere on PRC.> If anyone knows of any please list  
>> them; I find
>> this topic> quite interesting.> > You lived in Charleroi didn't  
>> you; always open
>> to memories> of PRC here. Please write when you have the time.> >  
>> > Phil> > > >
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----> > From: ROBERT R ROCKWELL > >
>> To: pittsburgh-railways > > Sent: Friday,
>> January 2, 2009 8:30:10 AM> > Subject: [PRCo] Donora Wye> > > >  
>> Rarely do you
>> see this with no cars parked on it. Brick building on the side > >  
>> was Pgh Rwys
>> freight station/ticket office. It is boarded up now.>!
>>>>> Robert Rockwell> > w3syt1 at msn.com > > > > > > -- Attached file
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>> 202002.jpg> > >
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