[PRCo] Re: For Our Midwestern Natives and Transplants

[Schneider Fred]

Easterners in general and particularly people from the New York area  
often gave themselves away by talking that they were so many hours or  
minutes away from something.   Farther west they spoke in miles.

On Jan 21, 2009, at 11:14 PM, Richard Allman wrote:

> the one I was familiar with was the Boston accent, which had its   
> roots but
> in cadence and pronunciation in the English and later, Irish  
> influences.
> Allegedly there a few things that identify one as being from
> Philadelphia-one is always least cognizant of his/her accent. In
> Philadelphia, people walk on the pavement(elsewhere on the  
> sidewalk) and
> people are from an intersection, whereas elsewhere they're from a  
> street!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:34 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: For Our Midwestern Natives and Transplants
>
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>> There was a time when a good linguist could identify where you came
>> from right down to the neighborhood as soon as you opened your
>> mouth.   Using television to raise us made Americans rather
>> homogenized.   The accents today are not what part of the USA you
>> come from but what country you emigrated to the USA from or are
>> vacationing here from.   I find it challenging to identify the people
>> from Russia or Yugoslavia or the Czech Republic or Germany or Poland
>>
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2009, at 6:17 PM, Richard Allman wrote:
>>
>>> Fred-since you started this thread:
>>> to ride the Liberty Bell cars that I saw but missed riding;
>>> to ride by trolley Philadelphia to Harrisburg-both routes-PST to  
>>> West
>>> Chester, then West Chester St. Rwy to Coatesville, then Conestoga to
>>> Lancaster and then to Elizabethtown, then Hershey Transit to
>>> Hummelstown,
>>> then Harrisburg Railways to Harrisburg.
>>> OR LVT to Allentown then A&R to Reading, then RP&L to Lebanon and  
>>> then
>>> Hershey Transit..
>>> Come to think of it, couple other choices as well-Reading to
>>> Adamstown, then
>>> via Conestoga..., and maybe P&W to Norristown and RP&L routes to
>>> Reading...man, we had a lot here!
>>>
>>> Another one I'd like-my grandfather's trip from Boston to New  
>>> York by
>>> trolley around 1906. I'd like to join him for at least the fast leg
>>> via
>>> Boston and Worcester(or as the locals called it Wustah!)
>>> And of course, the things you cited
>>> Which brings up another sad thing lost-regional accents-TV and
>>> hypermobility
>>> of our population.
>>>
>>> RICH
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:05 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: For Our Midwestern Natives and Transplants
>>>
>>>
>>>> There was a man named Herman Rinke in the ERA office in New York  
>>>> who
>>>> used to be infuriating.   Everything you wanted to mention, he had
>>>> been there and done that and ridden that and seen that.
>>>>
>>>> Now it's my turn to be a S. O. B.   Been there.  Done that.   
>>>> Rode the
>>>> Electroliner.   Also rode a Libertyliner.
>>>>
>>>> But to be honest, there is always something we wished we could have
>>>> ridden that got away.   I I wished I could have ridden a wooden
>>>> interurban on the Terre Haute, Indianapolis and Eastern.   And, as
>>>> Jim Shuman used to say, just one more time to chase the setting sun
>>>> on the Cincinnati and Lake Erie in a Red Devil ... it was gone two
>>>> years before I was hatched.   And I would have loved to ride a
>>>> Butterfly 1200 from Los Angeles to San Bernardino or the Sacramento
>>>> Northern to Chico or the Texas Electric all the way from Waco to
>>>> Dallas and Denison (170 miles).   And how could we exclude the  
>>>> circle
>>>> tour from St. Louis to Danville to Champaign to Springfield and  
>>>> back
>>>> to St. Louis on the Illinois Terminal.   Or Milwaukee to Sheboygan
>>>> and to Watertown and then to Kenosha on TM and back to Milwaukee on
>>>> the North Shore.   And I have friends who did all of that and more.
>>>> And how about Ohio's Scioto Valley Traction ... a third rail line
>>>> through the farm fields.   And would it not be nice to go to
>>>> Cleveland, pick up Herb, get on the Cleveland, Southwestern and
>>>> Columbus car and then change to the Columbus Delaware and  
>>>> Marion, and
>>>> then the C&LE to Springfield and Toledo, and go back home on the  
>>>> Lake
>>>> Shore Electric.   Might take two days, Herb, to get you back home.
>>>>
>>>> I've actually ridden a third of the way to Sherman, Texas on  
>>>> DART and
>>>> who would have believed it in 1948 when TE was torn up.   The  
>>>> head-on
>>>> collision way out in the corn fields far north of Dallas that  
>>>> was the
>>>> final straw and which ended Texas Electric was well within today's
>>>> DART suburban territory.
>>>>
>>>> I guess I should just count myself lucky that I've seen and enjoyed
>>>> all that I have.
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Derrick J Brashear wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 20 Jan 2009, Ken and Tracie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forty five years since the end. One is a last night photo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, I'd forgotten that entirely. Someday I will make IRM and
>>>>> ride an
>>>>> Electroliner. The Liberty Liner never moved while I was around,
>>>>> sadly.
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