[PRCo] Re: Didn't Stop Soon Enough

Edward H. Lybarger trams2 at comcast.net
Sun Jan 25 19:02:14 EST 2009


And this was a point in time when there was a surplus of cars, anyway. 

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Schneider Fred
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:58 PM
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Subject: [PRCo] Re: Didn't Stop Soon Enough

You used a good word ... beyond "economical" repair.   If you have  
400 cars and you need 300, you can easily run something that is a few years
older and avoid fixing a body on something that you know you're  
going to scrap in a few years anyway.   The county was already making  
rumblings about taking over the system.   I understand from Blaine  
Hays that the guy who owned the majority interest was counting on the  
sale to a public authority.   So why pour money down a manhole?

Remember about ten years later when all of the General Electric cars  
were retired including the 1700s.   The Westinghouse cars were more  
"economical" to keep on the streets.   Why keep 25 newer GE cars when  
you can keep 25 older Westinghouse cars instead and reduce maintenance
costs?




On Jan 25, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Ken and Tracie wrote:

> I'm wondering if 1629 had serious enough structural, mechanical or 
> electrical damage to render it inoperable?
>
> The fact that they scrapped a thirteen year old car seems to indicate 
> the car was beyond economical repair.
>
> K.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:53 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Didn't Stop Soon Enough
>
>
>> Manchester was open until June 1959.
>>
>> But are we making assumptions that they could not run it?   I've got
>> a picture of a 1700 that ran into a truck and pushed in the dasher so
>> far you couldn't open the front door.   It ran all the way to
>> Charleroi before being changed out for another car.   I have the
>> picture of all the people getting off.   Lester Wismer took the  
>> picture.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Ken and Tracie wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe if PRCO had put 1629's roof cowl/ventilator on 1630, PAT 
>>> wouldn't have noticed the difference and maybe they would not have 
>>> rejected the latter car. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> K.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:16 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Didn't Stop Soon Enough
>>>
>>>
>>>> I guess Manchester was still open at this point, wasn't it?
>>>> They'd likely
>>>> push it to the nearest barn for pickup by the tow car.  I'd assume 
>>>> they would strip it for certain parts at Homewood before hauling it 
>>>> to Rankin.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>







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