[PRCo] Re: Car 1600

Ken and Tracie ktjosephson at embarqmail.com
Sun Jul 12 22:36:05 EDT 2009


I understand the situation, Fred. Milwaukee did the opposite of PAT during 
the last few years of trackless trolley operation. The last of their newest 
Pullman-Standard Trolley coaches were Westinghouse equipped and the majority 
of the postwar fleet were General Electric. So the Westinghouse P-S coaches 
were put out to pasture about two years before the last lines were 
dieselized.

1600 was neither a 1700 nor a 1601 & up car. I'm sure PAT would have 
rejected it had it not been destroyed by fire. Heck, they rejected 1630, 
which had lost its ventilation roof system and carried a pre-war trolley 
pole base cowl.

K.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Schneider Fred" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:24 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Car 1600


> All sorts of places, Ken.  I had my St. Petersburg model painted for
> 76 Hamilton which matches one of the pictures in the Westinghouse
> advertising book.   I know it worked out of Homewood in the beginning
> and it was there at the end ... or it was there for work at the
> end.   Bromley has a picture of it on 22 CROSSTOWN ... that suggests
> it was assigned either to Herron Hill or Manchester for a while.
> I've seen pictures of it at Kennywood on route 68 ... guess it must
> have been at Craft for a while.   And I've seen pictures of it
> working on the Sousside.    Suspect it migrated around every time a
> carbarn foreman got tired of it.
>
> Was it a bad car?  Not really.   Not any different from a Johnstown
> car.   After they quit running the guts were incorporated into new
> cars in Brussels and those were still around when I rode them in the
> 1980s.   It is simply that every time you inflict a single oddball
> vehicle on a repair shop or a motorman, most would rather see you
> give it to some other shop or motorman.    Human nature.
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:05 PM, Ken and Tracie wrote:
>
>> So where did one-of-a-kind all electric car 1600 see the most
>> service? Was
>> it being serviced or just mothballed when it was destroyed by fire?
>>
>> K.
>>
>>
>
> 




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