[PRCo] Re: Car 1600

[John Swindler]

Or was 22 working out of Herron Hill at that time???  dunno.


 
> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Car 1600
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:19:43 -0400
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> 
> You, Philip, are quoting what I was told then to refute what I know 
> now. I explained several days ago that it also worked out of Tunnel 
> and Homewood and possibly Herron Hill or Manchester. The pictures 
> Bill Vigrass pictures you have posted serve only to confirm that it 
> also was assigned to Tunnel Car House.
> 
> Logically, the only routes it would not have worked on were the 
> Ingram, Keating or Millvale lines because they were General Electric 
> barns. Their mechanics would have been unfamiliar with maintaining 
> a Westinghouse accelerator if it developed a problem. And even 
> then, my perceived rule was broken when it was assigned to route 22 
> CROSSTOWN. That same imaginary rule was waived when 1700 was 
> assigned to route 22 before the HB lifeguard was removed and the 
> interurban appurtenances were applied in 1949.
> 
> If every author waited for the last survivor of the civil war to die 
> so that no one could argue with what he wrote," there would no books 
> out the civil war to read before the 1970s. The same applies to 
> trolleys. It isn't always necessary to quote what an author wrote 
> 30 years before in a book when more better information has since 
> become available. I do take pride in my work on those two books, 
> however, and for the most part they have stood the test of time. 
> But like every book, there are flaws in them.
> 
> On Jul 14, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:
> 
> > Excellent point Mr.McGuire; the railway is known to show
> > off its equipment to attract riders.
> > Quoting more of the photo caption on pg.172 of the 2nd
> > PCC book: "The car [1600] was used on any line based at
> > Craft Ave. Car House." Car 1600 was 'possibly' based at
> > a number of barns for demonstration purposes. These
> > photos show the car on the 48 and at SHJ:
> > http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/bvp007.htm
> >
> > http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/bvp008.htm
> >
> > I have seen the photo of 1600 on the 22 offered on ebay.
> >
> > Here's a couple at Craft:
> > http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/wvp104.htm
> >
> > http://www.davesrailpix.com/pitts/htm/wvp105.htm
> >
> > We know that interurban 1700 was used in demonstration
> > on the 22-Crosstown don't we. The pilot was replaced with
> > a lifeguard for this demo wasn't it. This has led some to
> > incorrectly speculate that 1700 was delivered as a city car
> > and converted for interurban use by PRC.
> >
> >
> > Phil
> > Without a 'coast' but not a 'cause.'
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- 
> > "The Bible is the rock on
> > which this Republic rests."
> >
> > ........Andrew Jackson,
> > ........7th President, U.S.A.
> >
> > http://www.eadshome.com/Andrew%20Jackson.htm
> >
> > http://home.att.net/~jrhsc/andy.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mark McGuire <macmarka at netzero.net>
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:23:15 PM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Car 1600
> >
> > That's why I simply had mine with "CAR HOUSE" on the dest. sign. I 
> > suspect PRCo probably wanted to see how it ran on certain routes. 
> > More than that, I'd say they may have wanted to show it off. If you 
> > look at that Bromley photo, the car looks pretty new. What better 
> > route to show off a car than on 22.
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: Schneider Fred <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Car 1600
> > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:24:02 -0400
> >
> > All sorts of places, Ken. I had my St. Petersburg model painted for
> > 76 Hamilton which matches one of the pictures in the Westinghouse
> > advertising book. I know it worked out of Homewood in the beginning
> > and it was there at the end ... or it was there for work at the
> > end. Bromley has a picture of it on 22 CROSSTOWN ... that suggests
> > it was assigned either to Herron Hill or Manchester for a while.
> > I've seen pictures of it at Kennywood on route 68 ... guess it must
> > have been at Craft for a while. And I've seen pictures of it
> > working on the Sousside. Suspect it migrated around every time a
> > carbarn foreman got tired of it.
> >
> > Was it a bad car? Not really. Not any different from a Johnstown
> > car. After they quit running the guts were incorporated into new
> > cars in Brussels and those were still around when I rode them in the
> > 1980s. It is simply that every time you inflict a single oddball
> > vehicle on a repair shop or a motorman, most would rather see you
> > give it to some other shop or motorman. Human nature.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 12, 2009, at 10:05 PM, Ken and Tracie wrote:
> >
> >> So where did one-of-a-kind all electric car 1600 see the most
> >> service? Was
> >> it being serviced or just mothballed when it was destroyed by fire?
> >>
> >> K.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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