[PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday

Herb Brannon hrbran at cavtel.net
Thu May 14 18:11:05 EDT 2009


Coming from you I did wonder about that  ;-o

BTW, will you be at PTM this Saturday??

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net> wrote:
> That's "wait" instead of what's in the last line!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Edward
> H. Lybarger
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:31 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
>
> What we found when we researched the low floor design in service was that
> the public enthusiastically preferred the wider center entrance at the lower
> level.  The company preferred the faster boarding times and fewer
> boarding/alighting accident claims.
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> I don't think we can single out either width or height as THE factor; they
> worked together to make a very serviceable design.
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> It will be some time before 4145 enters service, in light of the work
> needed.  But it will be worth the weight, for it is a beautiful car.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Phillip
> Clark Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:55 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
>
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>> ----- Original Message ----
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>> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:37:33 AM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday
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>> I believe these are the original design doors.  They are not very
>> wide, and it is easy to understand why we found news articles about
>> the passengers flocking to the trailers first.
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>> The cars last hauled trailers in 1937, but some were also in
>> single-unit service into the late '30s.  Considering that they could
>> not be run as one-man cars, their use would have been limited to very
> heavy traffic times.
>> Thirteen were converted to snow scrapers in 1940, so they wouldn't
>> have been totally rare during the '40s.  It snowed here in those days!
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> Mr.Lybarger;
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> The low-floor trailers were probably popular because of their name as
> opposed to high-floor 4145.  It is an impressive car isn't it.
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> I graduated from high school 1950-51;  while I was out and about on my own
> well before that, a trip into Pgh was always a very special treat but not
> often traveled.
> I don't remember seeing the high-floor M-cars on the interurbans;  we had
> the f-cars for snow duty and actually 'catching' one of them at work was
> elusive.
> I know many were stored at South hills in Palm garden but I didn't ride the
> 38 that often.
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> I had forgotten these high-floors were 2-man operated;  this certainly
> doomed them.  Look forward to more photos as 4145 performs at the museum.
>
> Thank you very much for this information.
>
>
> Phil
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>>
>> > ----- Original Message ----
>>
>> > From: Edward H. Lybarger
>> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> > Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 2:43:12 PM
>> > Subject: [PRCo] Photo from Yesterday
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>> > I thought list members might enjoy one of my photos from yesterday,
>> > with PRCo 4145 up on the jacks and the trailer being pulled out so
>> > the shop trucks could be placed.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> >
>> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/02-DSC_0101.JPG
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>> Phillip Clark Campbell
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 2:49 PM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Photo from Yesterday Mr.Lybarger;
>>
>>
>> This 'is' a high-floor car isn't it;  watch the last step please!
>> Painted as M cars they seem to lose much of their character;  painted
>> for PRC and the camera angle gives 4145 a beautiful if formidable
>> appearance.  Living on the interurbans I didn't see these cars much
>> and just have vague recollections of them in the 1940s but none were
> revenue cars at this time.
>>
>> Are the doors a modification of the original by PRC?  They look such
>> don't they.
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>>
>> Phil
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Herb Brannon
On America's North Coast




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