[PRCo] Re: Penn Avenue - Point Park

Bob Rathke bobrathke at comcast.net
Mon Sep 14 22:52:13 EDT 2009


Attached are three photos of the Manchester bridge I took in the late 
1960's:
The view from downtown to the west was taken on 10/20/68 , the view with 
downtown buildings in the background was taken from the North Shore in 
January, 1969, and the view from Mt. Washington was taken on 9/7/69 (it 
shows the ramp connection between the Manchester and Point Bridges).

Not sure if these photo help the discussion, but I took many more photos 
around the Point during the construction of Three Rivers Stadium 1967-70. In 
the 50's I remember riding on the old wood ramp from Ft. Duquesne Blvd. to 
the Manchester Bridge.

Bob 9/14/09


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:43 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Penn Avenue - Point Park


> Clearly, the wooden ramp to the Manchester Bridge is gone in this view, 
> and
> it is Penn Avenue extension that motorists are using to reach it.
>
> The one thing I've not heard expressed about the matter of trolleys on the
> Fort Pitt Bridge is that Federal policy did not allow tracks on Interstate
> Highways.  Pittsburgh Railways agreed in 1949 not to put tracks there.  I
> think all the later discussions are snake oil, even if they said they 
> wanted
> to change their mind.  It was a money-losing division...they were seeing 
> how
> much they could get from others to abandon it.  They got the money to buy
> the replacement buses, and that may have been a good deal.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Barry,
> Matthew R
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 4:03 PM
> To: 'pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org'
> Subject: [PRCo] Penn Avenue - Point Park
>
> Does anyone remember how one could access the Manchester Bridge after the
> Point Bridge was closed?   I recall being a passenger in an automobile on
> the 10th street bypass, and just before one would go forward to the ramp 
> to
> the Ft. Pitt Bridge, there was a left hand turn you could make that would
> lead you to the Manchester Bridge.   I think - but again cannot recall -
> that it would lead you up to Commonwealth Place, where you would make a
> right down a roadway, then right up the ramp to the Manchester. 
> Attached
> is a photo of the Point Park Area from 1969.   I think - but am not sure -
> that the roadway in the left foreground is where Penn Avenue used to be.
> If that is what used to be Penn, then all that fuss about Point Park not
> being able to be completed if the West End streetcar lines continued to 
> use
> the Point Bridge, was not quite valid at the time.
> Matt
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