[PRCo] Re: Portland Green Line

[richard allman]

Ed-it came up linked to the news story in the Oregonian yesterday-maybe it 
has gone away as quickly as it emerged! I'll check out the Tri MAX site to 
see if it's there. After all the talk back and forth, however,  let me dig 
in my heels and stay w/ view that Tri MAX is the best-yeah some slow running 
in the transitways downtown, but lots of off and on  boarding there as well, 
and if they had opted for a tunnel, it would have consumed most of the 
finite resources that have enabled them to so far have 5 branches to the 
areas where people live and work. BTW, no one can argue w/ the speed once 
the trains leave downtown and the Lloyd Center. The trains are clean, the 
signage, ticketing, etc, are superb, stations and infrastructure well 
maintained and safe, the patronage robust both peak and off-peak, and it has 
helped to make Portland one of the greenest of cities. Oh, and not to be 
assumed everywhere, the staff is courteous and highly professional. Some one 
tell me where it's much better. Where it may be comparable: San Diego, 
Dallas, Hudson-Bergen(my candidiate for most improved!), maybe LA. Maybe 
Hiawatha, though have not been there yet and for all its good points-and 
there are  lot-so far just one line. Calgary, but it's not a US 
system -though I have a fondness for most things Canadian.
RICH

----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Portland Green Line


> That's apples vs. oranges.  If you use that to select a transportation 
> mode,
> that's one thing, but if you compare transit systems you have to look at
> those areas.  And it's not just the ramp...it's the operator's time away
> from the platform that's a big factor in the dwell time.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Joshua
> Dunfield
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:35 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Portland Green Line
>
> 2009/9/16 Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>:
>> 22 mph isn't so bad when you figure that a New York express train does
>> maybe
>> 17 or 18. You have to look at the number of stops and the dwell time,
>> which has increased most places because of the need to accommodate the
>> handicapped patrons.
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> If I'm comparing it to driving, walking, or biking, I really don't need to
> look at the stops or the dwell time.  MAX wheelchair ramps are pretty 
> fast,
> anyway.
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> Fred: yes, I got that far, but I didn't see anything on that page that's
> obviously an 80 page brochure.  I don't feel like going through
> 15 links.
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