[PRCo] Re: Portland Green Line

[John Swindler]

Suggest taking a ride on the new electric mass transit vehicles assigned to 66, 59 and 75 in Philadelphia.  Driver can pull up to a curb, passengers can walk straight onto the trackless trolley and to a seat without having to climb any steps.  And then compare with boarding a light rail vehicle in Philadelphia.  I'll be at Frankford Monday and will check to see if the new trackless have a ramp of lift for ADA purposes.  

 

First encountered a low floor car in Ghent.  Would have preferred a LRV, but had to admit that the low floor car was easier and quicker to board.  From a safety island, there is no need for ramps or lifts to handle wheelchairs.

 

To link back to Pittsburgh, just compare a high floor steps with a low floor car.  PTM has 4145 and 4398 for this purpose.

 

Cheers

John

 

 


 
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:58:49 -0700
> From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Portland Green Line
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
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> ________________________________
> From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:38:45 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Portland Green Line
> 
> Low floor is the way to go. Gets rid of ramps, lifts, and people climbing steps. 
> ________________________________
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> 
> Mr.Swindler;
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> 
> Getting rid of people does get ride of most safety concerns.
> Your comments have been made as frequently as I have stated:
> 
> "The point I made which hasn't been addressed is the
> side impact issue isn't it. After such a collision there
> shall be more people come under the ADA law won't
> there."
> 
> Is this another of many examples of history repeating?
> We rave about one feature while openly ignoring obvious
> concerns. We 'jump on board' feeling 100% safe, even 110%.
> Then the accident happens; we rant: 'why didn't 'they' see
> this problem?'
> 
> Yes; these low cars eliminate ramps and lifts but at what cost
> in both $$$ and $afety?
> 
> 
> Phil
> Without a 'coast' but not a 'cause.'
> 
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> > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:53:39 -0700
> > From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Portland Green Line
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > 
> > Mr.Allman;
> > 
> > The point I made which hasn't been addressed is the
> > side impact issue isn't it. After such a collision there
> > shall be more people come under the ADA law won't
> > there. Portland and other cities had wayside lifts to
> > board wheelchairs; whether or not it is less expensive
> > to outfit each vehicle is lost on me.....
> > 
> > I don't see a difference in schedules because of these
> > low cars.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Phillip Clark Campbell" <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
> > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:23 PM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Portland Green Line
> > 
> > 
> > > Mr.Allman;
> > >
> > > .... I am
> > > concerned with side impact collisions; something
> > > could put a whole new door in this equipment. Maybe
> > > I will like them better when I really 'need' such an
> > > amenity.
> 
> > >
> > > Phil
> > > Without a 'coast' but not a 'cause.'
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:07:13 PM
> > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Portland Green Line
> > >
> > > every Tri MET train has one low floor car so the boarding is rather swift!
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